06-16-2005, 09:31 PM #1
"Downing Street Memo" -- Did Bush deliberately mislead the US on Iraq?
I dunno . .. what do y'all think?
Democrats Urge Inquiry on Bush, Iraq
By PETE YOST, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Amid new questions about President Bush's drive to topple Saddam Hussein, several House Democrats urged lawmakers on Thursday to conduct an official inquiry to determine whether the president intentionally misled Congress.
At a public forum where the word "impeachment" loomed large, Exhibit A was the so-called Downing Street memo, a prewar document leaked from inside the British government to The Sunday Times of London a month and a half ago. Rep. John Conyers (news, bio, voting record) of Michigan, the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, organized the event.
Recounting a meeting of Prime Minister Tony Blair's national security team, the memo says the Bush administration believed that war was inevitable and was determined to use intelligence about weapons of mass destruction to justify the ouster of Saddam.
"The intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy," one of the participants was quoted as saying at the meeting, which took place just after British officials returned from Washington.
The president "may have deliberately deceived the United States to get us into a war," Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., said. "Was the president of the United States a fool or a knave?"
The Democratic congressmen were relegated to a tiny room in the bottom of the Capitol and the Republicans who run the House scheduled 11 major votes to coincide with the afternoon event.
"We have not been told the truth," Cindy Sheehan, whose soldier son was killed in Baghdad a year ago, told the Democrats. "If this administration doesn't have anything to hide, they should be down here testifying."
The White House refuses to respond to a May 5 letter from 122 congressional Democrats about whether there was a coordinated effort to "fix" the intelligence and facts around the policy, as the Downing Street memo says.
White House spokesman Scott McClellan says Conyers "is simply trying to rehash old debates."
Conyers and a half-dozen other members of Congress were stopped at the White House gate later Thursday when they hand-delivered petitions signed by 560,000 Americans who want Bush to provide a detailed response to the Downing Street memo. When Conyers couldn't get in, an anti-war demonstrator shouted, "Send Bush out!" Eventually, White House aides retrieved the petitions at the gate and took them into the West Wing.
"Quite frankly, evidence that appears to be building up points to whether or not the president has deliberately misled Congress to make the most important decision a president has to make, going to war," Rep. Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record) of New York, senior Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee, said earlier at the event on Capitol Hill.
Misleading Congress is an impeachable offense, a point that Rangel underscored by saying he's already been through two impeachments. He referred to the impeachment of President Clinton for an affair with a White House intern and of President Nixon for Watergate, even though Nixon resigned to avoid impeachment.
Conyers pointed to statements by Bush in the run-up to invasion that war would be a last resort. "The veracity of those statements has — to put it mildly — come into question," he said.
Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson said, "We are having this discussion today because we failed to have it three years ago when we went to war."
"It used to be said that democracies were difficult to mobilize for war precisely because of the debate required," Wilson said, going on to say the lack of debate in this case allowed the war to happen.
Wilson wrote a 2003 newspaper opinion piece criticizing the Bush administration's claim that Iraq had sought uranium in Niger. After the piece appeared someone in the Bush administration leaked the identity of Wilson's wife as a CIA operative, exposing her cover.
Wilson has said he believes the leak was retaliation for his critical comments. The Justice Department is investigating.
John Bonifaz, a lawyer and co-founder of a new group called www.AfterDowningStreet.org, said the lack of interest by congressional Republicans in the Downing Street memo is like Congress during Nixon's presidency saying "we don't want" the Watergate tapes.
06-17-2005, 06:43 AM #2
Im certain when G.W. decided to go to war, he came up with an idea to sell it to the American public. It does not mean anything. He has to do the same thing with healthcare, tax cuts, etc..
06-17-2005, 08:21 AM #3Retired Vet
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Tock, I really get worried about the media coverage you guys get over there. This is very old news in Europe.
06-17-2005, 01:21 PM #4
LOL - you boys gotta read 1984 by George Orwell
it makes things easier to understand (seriously)
06-17-2005, 01:55 PM #5
the day Bush gets impeached is the day I reach 300lbs 5% bf naturally
he's got congress in his pocket.
06-17-2005, 02:23 PM #6Associate Member
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what ticks me off is how 99.9% of americans around here atleast were FULLY supporting their president just before the war and during the initial phases. everybody showed how easily they get brainwashed by a good presedential showing on fox, in one of his well constructed/planned presedential speeches.
those 99.9 % of ppl have proven to be nothing but lowly sheep, and whoever STILL supports bush and his war is obviously either mentally lacking, or just wants to be cool by supporting something that is unpopular right now, so they stick out.
amazing how the patriotic avatars have disappeared slowly. where is all the american flags and other crap like that on you avatars?
06-17-2005, 07:29 PM #7
Most Americans are pathetic. Worried more about their American Idol vote and who wins Survivor than critical analysis of "their" president. And it is gonna get worse.
06-18-2005, 02:04 AM #8Retired Vet
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06-18-2005, 07:55 AM #9Originally Posted by symatech
06-18-2005, 01:49 PM #10
who cares, whats done is done, he's basically a lame duck now.... start campaigning for hillary...
06-18-2005, 02:01 PM #11Originally Posted by Badgerman
06-18-2005, 03:24 PM #12Retired Vet
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06-18-2005, 06:37 PM #13Originally Posted by Benches505
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