07-21-2005, 12:00 PM #1
It's obvious that osama bin laden as well as a host of others have the knowledge, technical proficiency, and will to carry out large scale attacks on foreign countries soil. So my question is this: If they really are wanting to attack these countries which they are at war with, why do they target civilians mostly. Like the towers, the subways etc etc. Granted they did hit the pentagon, but they had to have known that they couldn't inflict that much damage to a fortress like that with only one plane. So why don't they strike at the heart. If they really want victory or death why do they not target the leaders of countries? What good do they think they are doing for their cause by killing civilians who have nothing to do with the invasion?
Seriously, it's been on my mind for awhile now.
07-21-2005, 03:43 PM #2
in democratic countries (were the people have a little bit of participation in the gov) killing civilians will affect positively or negatively the decision making in those governement. Some time killing civilians can make the people afraid and take defensive actions sometime it can make them angry and make offensive actions.
07-21-2005, 04:19 PM #3
Terrorism also has as a base to change the public and masses perception, unfortunately to the extreme. The Madrid Bombing was the best proof of this, the Government was changed and pulled out from Saddambeach
07-21-2005, 04:23 PM #4
IMO its just harder, nearly impossible, to get to the big guys in the gov. the last thing they want to do is be caught, so they go for the easy way out.
07-21-2005, 04:26 PM #5Originally Posted by 305GUY
They dont want to hit the big guy!
Everyone HATES Bush, half of his country want his dead LOL, now let's say, Ahmir EL-Hussein Cheik whatever kills the president! People will be touched, pissed and mad to the extreme, the people that hates him, will change side and think "they killed my president!"
most people think "oh terrorist, we're bombed because we did something"
hit the leader and the followers usually do not follow suit.
07-21-2005, 04:29 PM #6Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
07-21-2005, 04:35 PM #7Originally Posted by 305GUY
07-21-2005, 04:36 PM #8Originally Posted by 305GUY
I can give you a thousand way to kill a president
including direct bombing from the highway in DC!
Dont forget people running the show in offices in DC are idiotic chairborne dumbasses stucks in their office imposing things on their staffs, now its easy exploit the crack and youll find the target!
Sheez, I can build a multiple rocket launcher from metallic tubes, powders, some wires and a few other thiniges I can find at Home Depot with a good range. I spot where the main man will be weeks in advance, I prepare the scene outside the "scealed" area in a truck parked in a parking lot, in a backyard, and shoot. This is one example........
Buy a cheap chinese surface to air missile, I get in the wood, in a truck with an opening, I know air force 1 or 2 will pass with eagle 1 in it! Shoot and voila, and no one will know where it comes from!
and if you want my comments about the attacks they did from 9/11, Madrid and London, they were either idiots or didnt want to hit to a max at all!
07-21-2005, 04:42 PM #9Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
07-21-2005, 04:43 PM #10
I remember a conference, where it says that all Hamas attacks in Israel where performed during elections time (from municipal to high level) actually to change the perception.
07-21-2005, 04:45 PM #11Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
07-21-2005, 04:45 PM #12Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
07-21-2005, 04:47 PM #13Originally Posted by symatech
No idea, but the level of attacks where higher in these times, then when nothing was happening the attacks went to a low, sometime to an extend to nothing!
All attacks made or will be made by Hamas are mostly all planned under the political Israelian / Palestinian schedule
07-21-2005, 04:47 PM #14Originally Posted by 305GUY
ps. don't blow me up vandoo
07-21-2005, 04:53 PM #15
First yes this site is monitored, all site, chats, emails, SMS' text message, phone, cell phone, TV, radio communications are monitoed and recorded from the Echellon program, so no worries there
PS: The IRA in Derry doesnt like me
07-21-2005, 05:21 PM #16Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
07-21-2005, 06:17 PM #17Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
Hard, because every corners, places in the area accessible for a sniper shot will be checked and checked by countersniper teams.
Also, you need to check windspeed, weather, humidity, ahhh too complicated and not media like
07-22-2005, 01:58 AM #18Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
The funniest best way I know is when hezbollah sent a bomb-trap video tape to an "israeli" high rank officer inside Lebanon it exploded when he first put it in the VCR
07-22-2005, 02:06 AM #19Originally Posted by symatech
The words of Osama himself.
I say to you, as Allah is my witness: We had not considered attacking the towers, but things reached the breaking point when we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon – then I got this idea.
The events that had a direct influence on me occurred in 1982, and the subsequent events, when the US permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon with the aid of the American sixth fleet.
In those critical moments, I was overwhelmed by ideas that are hard to describe, but they awakened a powerful impulse to reject injustice and gave birth to a firm resolve to punish the oppressors. As I was looking at those destroyed towers in Lebanon, I was struck by the idea of punishing the oppressor in the same manner and destroying towers in the US, to give it a taste of what we have tasted and to deter it from killing our children and women.
Osama Bin Laden
07-22-2005, 10:15 AM #20
He did not get the Idea, I told him on IRC in 2000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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