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    Scoreboard-Moderate muslims 1--terrorists 0

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    Saudi: Radical Islam worse than Nazism



    Saudi journalist says terror groups should be treated as Nazis, total war should be declared on extremist Islamic Ideology
    By Roee Nahmias



    Courageous words: Not everyone in the Arab world praises Osama Bin Laden and terror groups as heroes. Indeed, some Arabs have issues scathing attacks on radical Islamic groups and they manner in which they interpret Islam.


    The criticism leveled at extremists by Saudi journalist Muhammad al al-Sheikh, however, is unusual in its harshness. In two pieces published
    in Saudi newspaper al-Jazeera, and presented courtesy of the Middle East Media Research Institute, al-Sheikh charged radical Islamists hold a similar, and even worse, ideology than radical Islam, and should be treated as Europeans coped with Nazism.


    The first article was published in July 10, following the release of an extremist spiritual leader from prison. The release raises many questions, al-Sheikh said.


    “The man is one of the forefathers of terrorism and he is the one who raised, through his books and radical interpretations, many of those belonging to terror groups.”


    “They say a Jordanian court acquitted him of charges that include the blowing up of American facilities…however, this dangerous terrorist did something much worse: he seized upon the down-and-out situation of many Muslim youths today in order to perpetuate violence, murder and destruction forever. In order to plant deep roots for the idea of suicide and to incite kids to commit suicide."


    “This is the root of the problem,” said al-Sheikh.


    ‘Hating the other’


    According to al-Sheikh, “eradicating terror will only be possible by doing away with the ideas that come from our society. A military solution is not enough,” he said.


    “We must treat modern Jihad parties just as the Europeans treated Naziism," he added.


    “The ideas of radical Islam are similar to the ideas that drove the Nazi ideology. If the economic freeze and national depression in 1930 led to the emergency to murderous Nazism, we can say that the economic and cultural failure that grip Arab and Muslim countries today, together with the frustration of many Muslims, are once again driving this murderous philosophy."


    Similarly, the common denominator is hatred and physical elimination of the other, al-Sheikh said



    “I still believe that one of the first tasks for the international community today should be to reconstruct its experience with Nazism and cope with this barbaric, dangerous culture as it did with the Nazi culture,” al-Sheikh wrote.



    “If this isn’t done, the coming days could be very eventful and their implications for the whole of humanity would be much more severe than those of the World War,” he concluded somberly..

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0%2...8227%2C00.html

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    Since when do you read ynet??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
    Since when do you read ynet??
    yesterday they killed a big al quaeda member in KSA it all over the news

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    Quote Originally Posted by kis55
    Article...

    Saudi: Radical Islam worse than Nazism



    Saudi journalist says terror groups should be treated as Nazis, total war should be declared on extremist Islamic Ideology
    By Roee Nahmias



    Courageous words: Not everyone in the Arab world praises Osama Bin Laden and terror groups as heroes. Indeed, some Arabs have issues scathing attacks on radical Islamic groups and they manner in which they interpret Islam.


    The criticism leveled at extremists by Saudi journalist Muhammad al al-Sheikh, however, is unusual in its harshness. In two pieces published
    in Saudi newspaper al-Jazeera, and presented courtesy of the Middle East Media Research Institute, al-Sheikh charged radical Islamists hold a similar, and even worse, ideology than radical Islam, and should be treated as Europeans coped with Nazism.


    The first article was published in July 10, following the release of an extremist spiritual leader from prison. The release raises many questions, al-Sheikh said.


    “The man is one of the forefathers of terrorism and he is the one who raised, through his books and radical interpretations, many of those belonging to terror groups.”


    “They say a Jordanian court acquitted him of charges that include the blowing up of American facilities…however, this dangerous terrorist did something much worse: he seized upon the down-and-out situation of many Muslim youths today in order to perpetuate violence, murder and destruction forever. In order to plant deep roots for the idea of suicide and to incite kids to commit suicide."


    “This is the root of the problem,” said al-Sheikh.


    ‘Hating the other’


    According to al-Sheikh, “eradicating terror will only be possible by doing away with the ideas that come from our society. A military solution is not enough,” he said.


    “We must treat modern Jihad parties just as the Europeans treated Naziism," he added.


    “The ideas of radical Islam are similar to the ideas that drove the Nazi ideology. If the economic freeze and national depression in 1930 led to the emergency to murderous Nazism, we can say that the economic and cultural failure that grip Arab and Muslim countries today, together with the frustration of many Muslims, are once again driving this murderous philosophy."


    Similarly, the common denominator is hatred and physical elimination of the other, al-Sheikh said



    “I still believe that one of the first tasks for the international community today should be to reconstruct its experience with Nazism and cope with this barbaric, dangerous culture as it did with the Nazi culture,” al-Sheikh wrote.



    “If this isn’t done, the coming days could be very eventful and their implications for the whole of humanity would be much more severe than those of the World War,” he concluded somberly..
    Thank You! I have been saying this(isnt that right MG?, lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
    Since when do you read ynet??
    since he posted this thread , u should try it 2 babe !

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    yesterday they killed a big al quaeda member in KSA it all over the news
    Cant wait till they Kill em all

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    yesterday they killed a big al quaeda member in KSA it all over the news

    Look at the address of the link, you......

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    The article is none sense because it look like a propaganda, all the ideology of bin laden is wrong except for one thing when he say that all the foreign armies should be kicked from the land of the Muslims, IMO their is no extremist Muslim and moderate Muslim , their is a Muslim who practice his religion and a Muslim who don’t practice it and the Muslims who are killing innocent people don’t understand the true Islam because Muslims don’t believe in action-reaction so if someone killed innocent Muslim people we don’t go and kill innocent people, as for the fighting of foreign armies on our soils I totally advocate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    The article is none sense because it look like a propaganda, all the ideology of bin laden is wrong except for one thing when he say that all the foreign armies should be kicked from the land of the Muslims, IMO their is no extremist Muslim and moderate Muslim , their is a Muslim who practice his religion and a Muslim who don’t practice it and the Muslims who are killing innocent people don’t understand the true Islam because Muslims don’t believe in action-reaction so if someone killed innocent Muslim people we don’t go and kill innocent people, as for the fighting of foreign armies on our soils I totally advocate it.

    Hello Hamas, Hezbolla, Islamic Jihad, Al Queda.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
    Since when do you read ynet??
    Not often, but I came across it and liked the article.

    Since you live in Israel, do you remember a journalist named Sam Orbaum?

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    The only thing that makes Al-Qaeda unnaceptable is their targeting of civilians. Other than that, I support their aggresion towards American institutions.

    Have fun with that.
    Last edited by inheritmylife; 08-20-2005 at 09:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kis55
    Hello Hamas, Hezbolla, Islamic Jihad, Al Queda.......
    you missunderstand the sentence its like this

    -sentence#1: (their is a Muslim who practice his religion and a Muslim who don’t practice it )
    sentence#2: (and the Muslims who are killing innocent people don’t understand the true Islam )

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    Quote Originally Posted by kis55
    Since you live in Israel, do you remember a journalist named Sam Orbaum?
    No, I never heard of him. Who is he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
    No, I never heard of him. Who is he?
    a gaylord

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    you missunderstand the sentence its like this

    -sentence#1: (their is a Muslim who practice his religion and a Muslim who don’t practice it )
    sentence#2: (and the Muslims who are killing innocent people don’t understand the true Islam )

    Strange, go ask any member of Hamas, Hezbolla, Islamic Jihad and Al Queda, and I'll bet they will all proclaim to be very devout Muslims..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    The article is none sense because it look like a propaganda, all the ideology of bin laden is wrong except for one thing when he say that all the foreign armies should be kicked from the land of the Muslims
    Bin Laden's motives and ideas are correct, but the means of him achieving those goals are totally wrong and unislamic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
    No, I never heard of him. Who is he?
    He was a journalist and editor for the Jerusalem post. He mostly wrote very funny political humor type articles. He passed away a few years ago from cancer I believe. He wrote some hilarious stuff about Israeli politics, as well as the "conflict" with the Palestinians.

    I can send you a link to some of his articles. It's really funny stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kis55
    He was a journalist and editor for the Jerusalem post. He mostly wrote very funny political humor type articles. He passed away a few years ago from cancer I believe. He wrote some hilarious stuff about Israeli politics, as well as the "conflict" with the Palestinians.

    I can send you a link to some of his articles. It's really funny stuff.

    Please do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
    Please do.
    Ok, here is the link.

    http://www.samorbaum.com/BS-main.html

    Also, look under the "peace process" section and check out the article titled "The Arafunnel", I think it's funny.
    Nu??hehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by kis55
    hahaha look at the ending of the site it say BS main the site talk about itself befor you enter it

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
    hahaha look at the ending of the site it say BS main the site talk about itself befor you enter it

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