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    Communism And Marx..experts Please

    For those familiar with the theories of marx, how do you respond to his call for the abolishment of private property, his call for communism, and his ideas of the species being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWhitaker
    For those familiar with the theories of marx, how do you respond to his call for the abolishment of private property, his call for communism, and his ideas of the species being.

    first you must understand the difference between bourgeoisie and the proletectariat and the difference in term of private ownership.

    Marx doesnt call for the abolishment of private property in the term of owning a house or a car. But the ownership of the mean of production and capitalism ie: the bougeois.

    As for his call for communism: He blamed that the hyper supra level of political achievement is communism, maybe he's right after all, true communism was never applied, just fake system. Maybe one day! Maybe!

    But like I said once in university similar about this:

    went something like that........


    "Why I will have to pay, why I will see my fortune, what I built gone to the hands of some less forfeited by life. When in fact I did worked nights and days at the sweat of my hard labour to achieve where I am and what I have to have it taken away by a bunch of frustrated workers that couldnt hack it or have similar success because they did not applied themselve like I did, quite unfair, it is not sharing but in fact stealing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
    first you must understand the difference between bourgeoisie and the proletectariat and the difference in term of private ownership.

    Marx doesnt call for the abolishment of private property in the term of owning a house or a car. But the ownership of the mean of production and capitalism ie: the bougeois.
    You also need to take into account those anarchist who helped with the movement. Generally speaking 'revolutionaries'. You may have libertarian-socialism(bourgeoisie) which tended to make government from the bottom up and keep property/ownership as well as utilize collectivism, about how the United States was founded... Or Marx... A authoritarian-socialist(proletectariat) in which property and liberty is distributed. Basically taking Authority and Government from the few, that redistributed wealth(socialism) and replacing it with a democratic majority(communism) that determines how to redistribute wealth, property, and liberty. Not much difference is there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    You also need to take into account those anarchist who helped with the movement. Generally speaking 'revolutionaries'. You may have libertarian-socialism(bourgeoisie) which tended to make government from the bottom up and keep property/ownership as well as utilize collectivism, about how the United States was founded... Or Marx... A authoritarian-socialist(proletectariat) in which property and liberty is distributed. Basically taking Authority and Government from the few, that redistributed wealth(socialism) and replacing it with a democratic majority(communism) that determines how to redistribute wealth, property, and liberty. Not much difference is there?

    just a change of power, same ole BS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
    just a change of power, same ole BS!
    Agreed.

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    Yes Change Of Power

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    Agreed.
    Good thread or is it a string?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    You also need to take into account those anarchist who helped with the movement. Generally speaking 'revolutionaries'. You may have libertarian-socialism(bourgeoisie) which tended to make government from the bottom up and keep property/ownership as well as utilize collectivism, about how the United States was founded... Or Marx... A authoritarian-socialist(proletectariat) in which property and liberty is distributed. Basically taking Authority and Government from the few, that redistributed wealth(socialism) and replacing it with a democratic majority(communism) that determines how to redistribute wealth, property, and liberty. Not much difference is there?

    Nice Meso.

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    Marxism ends up in contradiction. The idea is impossible.

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