10-14-2005, 03:42 AM #1
Do other countries have these neochristians?
I'm wondering if these crazy Christians are exclusive to America or if they are prevalent elsewhere. Obviously there are crazies from other religions, like Bin Laden, etc., but what about Christianity? And don't go flaming me that you aren't crazy, because I've read your stuff, and in my opinion you are. So just move along I'm asking people from other countries, i'm interested to know.
10-14-2005, 04:01 AM #2
haha, thats funny. comparing christians to bin laden. well i live in China, so I guess I qualify as one of those neo christians in another country..im a jesus freak and say it proudly... lol. funny funny.
10-14-2005, 04:15 AM #3
Presumably, you're referring to the modern American "fundamentalist" movement. Yes, they're crazy, but I think the P.C. term is "fundamentalist".
All religions have their fundamentalist "crazies". Even Buddhism (look into the fundamentalist craziness that is being enacted into law in Sri Lanka). The real issue is the influence that these folks are beginning to have over the American legal system. The legislation of "Christian" morality.
Historically, fundamentalists have had a proper place as oddities of religion. As religion itself has had a proper place as an oddity of the predilections of mankind. However, in our beloved country, there was a brilliant idea. Separation of church and state. Those that chose to indulge in these oddities could do so, and those that did not so choose could do so. Meanwhile, the public welfare could be maintained without stepping on toes.
Somewhere along the way, religionists in America decided that this was not good enough.
So, in answer to your question. Religious craziness is not exclusive to America. In fact, up until recently, we were one of the few countries that tried to ensure (via legislation) that religious craziness was kept out of government (there are a few others. precious few).
Though, apparently, that made baby jesus cry... So we must pay the price now.
10-14-2005, 05:54 AM #4
Christian fundamentalists are everywhere. The movement is getting stonger not weaker. In many of the developing countries they'll gather up the children (because the adults are harder to convert) and send them to christian schools they have built, with teachers they have obviously installed and commence with the brainwashing. They provide meals and other services that make christianity look better than their previous local religions.
Usually they take advantage of the economically weaker societies, but even in other industralized countries, like Australia and England, they are taking up more space.
They go everywhere; Eastern Europe, SE Asia, China and South America are the places that are growing the most with these people. They have an amazing well organized networking system. If someone wants to "volunteer" to work in a small village in China, they can usually transport that person there, complete with room and board arrangements within a week.
There is no stopping it. Religous fundamentalist members are always among the poorest groups in society. The poorest economic groups always have the most children. And since ignorance breeds ignorance it only makes sense that they will eventually bring us into another dark age. There is no winning an argument with a person who answers every why question with, "because god said so."
10-14-2005, 07:27 AM #5
am i considered one of these christian crazies by you guys or am i just a christian?? just wanna know what you think a crazy is.
10-14-2005, 10:47 AM #6Originally Posted by Set
But like I said we should not be made to respect a particular religion by law, or stop the freedom of practicing a religion by law.
10-14-2005, 12:17 PM #7
Well they might exist in sweden I am sure but they sure as hell get no air time on the tv or no say in politics and I thank god for that
Max I dont consider you a nutcase, a christian nutcase imo would be a dude that like jasper said responds to everything with "god said so". The people that have thrown away there brain and replaced it with a bibel.
10-14-2005, 01:44 PM #8Originally Posted by johan
you would get a real kick out of some of the christian crazies in the media here. Pat Robertson comes to mind instantly. On his TV show, he prayed for a vacancy in the supreme court, got it. Then prayed AGAIN for another vacancy!!! And he got it.... spooky isnt it? . And we can't forget him calling for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on his show. Be glad people like that don't have a voice in your country.
10-14-2005, 01:57 PM #9
Even the fundamentalist is pc here I recon
some of the shows over there seems hilarious because of the pure stupidity
10-14-2005, 02:42 PM #10
yup there is in germany now , the political system in germany now is devided between the socialists who take care of the foreign policy and the christian fundamentalist (close to usa gov) who take care of the internal policy
10-14-2005, 02:47 PM #11
I realy hope swedens secular society will stand firm against the growing fundamentalism in the world. We need to maintain neutrality like we have the last 200 years or so.
10-14-2005, 02:59 PM #12Originally Posted by johan
10-14-2005, 03:07 PM #13Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
they are generaly to uggly to gather followers
10-14-2005, 03:20 PM #14Originally Posted by johan
10-14-2005, 03:25 PM #15
I think that is one of the greatest mysteries ever
10-14-2005, 03:26 PM #16
Funny that radical feminists hates male but yet strive to look like them both in clothing, hairstyle and general apperance.
10-14-2005, 04:04 PM #17Originally Posted by johan
10-14-2005, 04:09 PM #18
well I cant bash female homosexuals since I enjoy lesbian porn so much
10-14-2005, 04:13 PM #19
10-14-2005, 04:23 PM #20
holy shit thats my new favorite pic right there
10-15-2005, 02:41 AM #21
Wow, I country is good because of christian fundamentalism. People are very ignorant, a good deal of science was founded by Christians. Many historians claim, if it wasnt for the reformation, England would have fallen to the Nazi's. If this was a atheistic country, Nazi's would rule the world, slavery could still be alive, marriage would be worthless. Why are you worried about christians, what about Islamic fundamentalists who would like you dead. Christ said, "If they hate you, they hated me first".
10-15-2005, 02:48 AM #22Originally Posted by scm007
No offense, its people like you that cannot be trusted, you make claims on things you know nothing about, and want to rally everyone behind you. You hate christianity, this is not because lack of evidence. Some day you will have to be honest with yourself, Anthony Flew should be your example to follow. Atleast if nothing else be honest. It is silly comparing Bin Laden to Christianity. No respected scholar would agree with your claims.
10-15-2005, 02:54 AM #23Originally Posted by johan
Johan, how can you justify any moral statement. Secularism is not neutral, it excludes the exclusivest. It is a logical contradiction. Johan, do you believe in truth? Secularism doesnt. According to secularism, truth does not exist. Is the statement true ----truth does not exist----- If yes, then truth does exist, if no truth does exist. The statement is self defeating and silly. Secularism is unfair and unneutral
10-15-2005, 03:24 AM #24Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
I never ever heard a german politican talking about god on tv.
There is another point a lot of people here complain about.
On the one hand our constitution says that nation and religion should or must be divided but on the other hand we have a party that calls itself christian democratic union ...
Every country all over the globus has it's religious "extremist" but, as johan said, they (normally) get no air time on the tv or no say in politics (as in the US).
10-15-2005, 04:54 AM #25Originally Posted by chino777
10-15-2005, 06:17 AM #26Originally Posted by books555
So your saying that if the usa was atheistic japan wouldnt have hit pearl harbor
If the why are you worried about christians comment was to me I can just say I worry about ALL fundamentalist since they all want to dictate how I should live MY life. I dont need anyone to tell me with who and when I can have sex, what meat I can eat, what god I should worship, what I can do with my body, what science I can study, what books I can read ect ect.
Fundamentalism is the greatest enemy to scientific progress, it has always been and will always be that way.
Originally Posted by books555
Christianity also greatly weakened my country since it made the viking age end. I wonder if christianity played any part in the downfall of the roman empire.
When it comes to goverment I dont care if the way its run is somehow unlogical philosophicaly. Since obviously my country has prospered "despite" that.Secularism is just a way to run a goverment without religious influence. nothing more, nothing less. So discussions about the nature of truth in this context is of no importance.
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