11-11-2005, 08:06 AM #1
Al-Qa'ida VS Israel: Could it happen?
Anyone think that they could actually succeed with an attack on Israeli soil or is Israeli security that good to thwart a terror plot? If they did succeed, how could Israel respond to "al-Qa'ida in Iraq"?
Al-Qaida in Iraq threatens to attack Israel
By News Agencies
A Web statement Friday in the name of al-Qaida in Iraq, claiming the deadly hotel bombings in Amman, Jordan,
included a threat to Israel, Jordan's western neighbor. The statement noted that Jordan, which it described as Israel's "buffer zone," was now "within range" and "it will not be long before raids by the mujahedeen come" to Israel itself.
The statement said that the attacks in Amman were carried out by four Iraqis, including a husband and wife "who chose to accompany her husband to his martyrdom."
"All of these are Iraqis from the land between the two rivers," the statement said, alluding to Iraq's ancient name, Mesopotamia. "They vowed to die and they chose the shortest route to receive the blessings of God."
The statement could not be authenticated, but it appeared on a site which has included past al-Qaida statements and was signed in the name of the group's spokesman, Abu Maysara al-Iraqi.
Jordan's security forces were interrogating scores of Arab suspects, including Iraqis, on Friday in connection with three suicide bombings that killed at least 60 people in Amman hotels in attacks claimed by al-Qaida.
A Jordanian security official said some 120 suspects, mainly Iraqis and Jordanians, were arrested in roundups.
One day after Jordan's King Abdullah pledged to "pull from their holes" militants behind one of the worst attacks to hit Jordan in its modern history, authorities stepped up a hunt for Islamic underground cells across the kingdom.
A security source told Reuters police conducted searches on Thursday in impoverished Amman neighborhoods where many Iraqi workers live. No more details were provided.
"The authorities are interrogating a wide range of suspects from different nationalities including Iraqi nationals to gather evidence that can lead us to the culprits," Interior Minister Awni Yarfas told Reuters.
In near-simultaneous attacks on Wednesday night, two suicide bombers turned crowded wedding parties into bloody scenes of destruction at the Grand Hyatt and the nearby Radisson SAS in central Amman. A third targeted a Days Inn hotel.
The attacks killed at least 57, most of them Jordanians, and wounded 96 but health officials have warned the death toll could climb as 16 people remained in critical condition.
Yarfas said forensic experts were conducting DNA analyses on what security officials believe are the remains of the bombers.
In a televised address on national television late on Thursday, a somber-looking King Abdullah said:
"We will pursue those criminals and those who are behind them, and we will reach them wherever they are."
Authorities said the attacks, which have shattered the sense of stability in U.S. ally Jordan, were executed by three suicide bombers wearing explosive belts; two entered the hotels, while a third blew himself up outside the hotel.
Al Qaeda in Iraq, led by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, said in a statement on an Islamic Web site that "a group of our best lions" had carried out the attacks against the hotels because they were used by U.S. and Israeli spies.
Famous director among fatalities
Moustapha Akkad, the Syrian-born director of the "Halloween" horror films, died Friday from wounds sustained in the triple hotel bombings, a hospital official said.
Akkad, 74, who lived in Los Angeles, died at 7.30 A.M. in a Jordanian hospital where he was being treated, according to surgeon Dr. Yousef Qisous.
Akkad's daughter, Rima Akkad Monla, 34, also died in one of Wednesday's three explosions, said her mother Patricia Akkad, speaking from Los Angeles.
11-11-2005, 08:39 AM #2
most of the arab world people hate al quaeda because they are attacking innocent muslim people and because they are not doing the job of a resistance like attacking armies ie: israeli army, so if al quaeda make attacks in israel it will have the compassion of the arab world ,it will portray itself as a resistance organization, but IMO I dont think they will do it they are just talking and talking to raise their popularity,because everyone who is against israel can gain the support and the compassion of the arab world and thats what al quaeda is trying to do after the decrease in their popularity stocks.
The wahhabi ideology was supported by the british in the 19th century to break up the muslims , al quaeda is just serving the interests of the imperialists.
11-11-2005, 08:56 AM #3
Abu Musab Al-Zarqui is one guy I cant figure out. I can figure out Osama Bin-Laden and Al-Zawhiri, but not Abu Musab.
When Al-Zawhiri is telling Abu Musab to relax you know how crazy this guy is.
The ultimate goal of Al Queda is Israel. They want to establish a Caliphate by taking out the West from the region and then attack Israel from there. Its a long term strategy.
11-11-2005, 09:06 AM #4
Wow. That's crazy. Is it true, though?
11-11-2005, 09:22 AM #5
Al Queda is fighting the US because the US is Israel's backbone. They belive if you break the backbone, the body becomes paralyzed.
11-11-2005, 10:02 AM #6Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
11-11-2005, 10:09 AM #7Originally Posted by scriptfactory
11-11-2005, 10:24 AM #8Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
Unfortunately you are right about them wanting to:
FIRST: Take out the West
SECOND: Establish an Islamic Caliphate
You are wrong, and way off, to say the "ultimate goal" is Israel. Israel is just one aspect...not the whole goal. Defeating Israel, which would never happen, is not going stop al-Qa'ida...as if they're job is done.
11-11-2005, 10:28 AM #9Originally Posted by AIZ
They want to end Western Influence in the region.
Actually the ulimate goal is an Islamic Caliphate, with Israel being part of the Caliphate. So Israel is not the ulimate goal, but for the ultimate goal to be established Israel needs to become part of the Caliphate. So Israel is a means to achieving the ultimate goal.
11-11-2005, 10:30 AM #10Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
11-11-2005, 10:31 AM #11Originally Posted by AIZ
11-11-2005, 10:34 AM #12Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
This is according to Jason Burke, known as the foremost expert on Al-Qa'ida. He's been following the group long before 9/11 and has even lived among them.
11-11-2005, 10:37 AM #13Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
Dude, you are such a tool
11-11-2005, 10:38 AM #14Originally Posted by AIZ
11-11-2005, 10:39 AM #15Originally Posted by AIZ
It is possible. No one is immortal.
11-11-2005, 10:44 AM #16Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
"I have an ultimate strategy that I drew up that can defeat Israel, if that time comes when its needed, I will send it to the Arabs."
11-11-2005, 10:49 AM #17Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
11-11-2005, 10:52 AM #18Originally Posted by AIZ
11-11-2005, 11:02 AM #19
I will give you an outline AIZ so you can be prepared -
First the Muslim world must be willing to accept alot of casualties. And also the nations in the Arab states must buy alot of AK47 and RPG's and distribute it to their population.
1st - Libya and Iran lob missles into Israel, Israel gets mad and takes over those two countries after a war, Israel controls those two countries. Then Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria attack with their ground forces. I belive they will also be defeated and Israel will control those countries.
2nd - Now is when the battle starts. With Israel controlling all those Arab countries and Iran. There must a huge guerilla war. Palestinians should start fighting, Iranians must start a war against the Israeli occupiers, so must Libya, Egypt, Syria, Jordan. The guerilla war will be a long process.
3rd - Eventually Israeli resources will not be able to handle such a large occupation and they retreat from Iran and Libya. Only holding Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria. Now again a guerilla war. It will be impossible for Israel to occupy those nations for a long time. Especially since there is so much anger against Israel.
4th - Israel will retreat to their country because they lost too many troops and too many resources. Then a mass attack, and take over Jerusalem.
11-11-2005, 11:12 AM #20Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
11-11-2005, 11:21 AM #21Originally Posted by AIZ
And borrow nukes from a state of the Caliphate - Pakistan.
Last edited by CAUSASIAN; 11-11-2005 at 11:31 AM.
11-11-2005, 11:37 AM #22Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
11-11-2005, 11:40 AM #23Originally Posted by Bigen12
And will Israel take over Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan? Or just bomb them too?
11-11-2005, 11:40 AM #24Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
BTW, I love Risk. Is there an online version? Maybe some of us from AR could get together and kill each other.
11-11-2005, 11:42 AM #25Originally Posted by Bigen12
11-11-2005, 11:42 AM #26Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
Lots of ifs there,
I do know that they have tried it a couple of times before and failed.
I was just pointing out that Israel wouldn't try to secure the land, they don't have the manpower.
11-11-2005, 11:46 AM #27
what are you debating now ??
11-11-2005, 11:46 AM #28Originally Posted by scriptfactory
11-11-2005, 11:47 AM #29Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
11-11-2005, 11:47 AM #30Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
11-11-2005, 11:49 AM #31Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
11-11-2005, 11:50 AM #32Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
Its basically what Hizbollah did in South Lebanon but in a much larger scale.
11-11-2005, 11:51 AM #33Originally Posted by Bigen12
11-11-2005, 11:54 AM #34Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
Ya'll sure must have some good hallucinates there in Lebanon.....
11-11-2005, 11:55 AM #35Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
Oh come now.....
Don't get your panties in a wad.
Causasian was betting on homo, and I was betting on just BI.......
11-11-2005, 11:55 AM #36Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
11-11-2005, 11:58 AM #37Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
11-11-2005, 12:31 PM #38Originally Posted by Bigen12
11-11-2005, 12:32 PM #39Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
11-11-2005, 12:35 PM #40Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
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