11-11-2005, 09:49 PM #1
OFF TOPIC But Screw it: Lousiana, Katrina, The Bush administration and our own People
Lousiana is Still in despair with no aid in site.
seems the rage at the Federal Response was encapsulated by Anderson Cooper a CNN journalist:
Cooper became part of the Katrina story when, interviewing Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) four days after the storm, he cut into her lavish praise of various politicos and the Federal Emergency Management Agency for the job they were doing in New Orleans. "Excuse me, senator, I'm sorry for interrupting," he said. "I haven't heard that because, for the last four days, I've been seeing dead bodies in the streets here in Mississippi. And to listen to politicians thanking each other and complimenting each other, you know, I got to tell you, there are a lot of people here who are very upset, and very angry, and very frustrated. When they hear politicians slap -- thanking one another, it just . . . kind of cuts them the wrong way right now because literally there was a body on the streets of this town yesterday being eaten by rats because this woman had been laying in the street for 48 hours. . . . Do you get the anger that is out here?"
Still as we speak Lousinanians are begging the government for resources and still no reponse
Lousiana according to City Counsel president is "being left to die"
how easy we forget our own
11-11-2005, 09:57 PM #2
this is for the lounge!
11-11-2005, 10:00 PM #3
yup or the politics forum.
11-11-2005, 10:00 PM #4
no bro I just saw a Journalist piece TODAY and the facts were confirmed
this is so wrong on so many levels that we all need to pause and reflect on just what the hell happened when our own country cant help its own people
with all due respect
11-11-2005, 10:02 PM #5Originally Posted by OMEGA
11-11-2005, 10:02 PM #6Originally Posted by OMEGA
11-11-2005, 10:07 PM #7Originally Posted by symatech
well I just thought this particular situation was so grave that It needed exposure
especially since it is ongoing
seems already many are forgetting about what happened. Lets not forget about the hundreds left dead and the thousands left homeless
move this is you must
11-11-2005, 10:09 PM #8
PPl need to put in their claims with FEMA.It doesn't happen overnight either.
I live in Broward County,Florida.We were just devastated by a hurricane,and I just got power after 16 days without.Why is it no Floridians are whining their asses off about the damage done here?Houses and lives were destroyed here as well.No one in Florida is screaming at the Bush regime.Why is Louisiana so fvcking special and want all the hand outs? I stood in line for hours for a bag of ice and case of bottled water everyday,as well as thousands more.Did you see any of us on CNN whining our asses of in 90 degree heat?
11-11-2005, 10:10 PM #9Originally Posted by Pinnacle
11-11-2005, 10:22 PM #10
come on mods, move this one. this is the second one tonight, why post some $hit like this in AS questions? not saying it doesnt deserve to be posted, but not here!
11-11-2005, 10:22 PM #11Originally Posted by Pinnacle
1) because Lousiana was BELOW SEA LEVEL and the devestation was of such a complete nature that anything but a ground up frame workout of rebuidlign is needed. The POOR were also the main victims
2) The POOR were the most displaced therefor they needed the most help. They did not have the resources and chance to flee plus even though the Government new by scientific model done years past waht would happen if even a category 3 came they still did not blow the whistle or even dispatch aid in advance resources when they new full and well what woud happen
11-11-2005, 10:23 PM #12
its $hit like this that move questions and concerns from good members to the bottom of the page.
11-11-2005, 10:25 PM #13
I am going to reserve my comments on the topic but I agree this should be in the lounge
11-11-2005, 10:26 PM #14Originally Posted by OMEGA
11-11-2005, 10:30 PM #15
And why DIDN'T Florida need to be under national guard?Looting wasn't an issue here.You didn't see ppl on CNN running down the streets of Ft. Lauderdale with cases of beer under their arms did you?PPl of Louisiana want to act like animals,then they need to be treated as such.Floridians are civil ppl and the United States of America treated us as such.We got our assistance when they could get it to us.In the mean time we took care of ourselves.Yeah,communities of ppl watched each others back making sure no one went hungry.We weren't out on the streets crying with a stolen beer in our hand.We looked after the young and elderly folks.
Louisaina should have taken notes on our behavior.Maybe they wouldn't be against the wall as of yet.
11-11-2005, 10:34 PM #16Originally Posted by Pinnacle
yeah maybe this thread should be moved cus its MORONS like you that believe an entire population is prone to violence and looting, maybe its cus they were poor and black, thats what people liek you think,
if you were left for a week with no aid, under water, with no hope in sight your ass would loot for food and survival
still no help as of TODAY, but let me guess they "deserve it" right?
11-11-2005, 11:31 PM #17
I live in LA and personaly the people were given many chances, short for the handicapped and elderly. If you stuck around it one for one purpose.... To take advantage of the mishap. I didnt see people in FL shooting at the rescue choppers and such. Feeling sorry for others and saying that everyone else neglects them are two different animals... If you feel guilty come here and rebuilt NO.
11-12-2005, 05:40 PM #18Originally Posted by Pinnacle
11-12-2005, 06:28 PM #19
Lousiana, Katrina, The Bush administration
11-12-2005, 06:39 PM #20SpringsBridge7 GuestOriginally Posted by OMEGA
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11-12-2005, 06:41 PM #21
for the lounge...
you might as well face the facts that no one cares about these particular Americans...
You know... the ones that make less than $100,000 Per year...
They have nothing to offer but their suffering...
You think George Bush cares?
Give me a break... You should know by now.
He'd only care if it were raining oil....
11-12-2005, 06:45 PM #22
BTW, shit happens and so do hurricanes...
talk is cheap, and if you feel so strongly about this issue, volunteer and help out a little. raise money, send food dontations or go there and offer your labour....
Blaming "people" or the administraion is one way of de****g with it, helping out is another...
11-12-2005, 06:50 PM #23Originally Posted by SpringsBridge7
And guess what Mr. Omega?We have plenty of poor black and Spanish families here in South Florida.You see them out ste****g?No,they work for a fvking living,not living off government checks.They are poor because of lack of education ect ect.But they fvcking work.So go fvck yourself you pompous piece of shit!!
11-12-2005, 06:50 PM #24
Well i can see that this is one of them threads where people say this should happen, that should happen. Like i said before, get off you lazy ass and help or shut the hell up . Your not there, you don’t know what these people are going through. You listen to the media and think you know how people feel? **** you ..
Don’t bother responding to my post
11-12-2005, 07:31 PM #25
Wasn't New Orleans responsible for a lot of the damage since they never invested in proper retaining walls to keep water from flooding the city? It's called prevention. That mayor seems like a jack-ass IMO.
I live in Seattle where we're prone to earthquakes. The whole west coast for that matter. Almost all of our buildings are built up to code or beyond. We had a 6.8 earthquake about 5 years ago with very little damage. http://chapters.redcross.org/ca/scv/...e_seattle.html Only a few pre 1900 buildings in the Pioneer Square area had major structural damage. That area of Seattle (SODO district) is actually built on land fill so it actually becomes almost liquid when the earth starts moving. It was a pretty violent quake too. I could see the ground slightly rippling during the quake. These things humble you quite a bit and damage can be prevented if you plan ahead.
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11-12-2005, 07:45 PM #26SpringsBridge7 Guest
Yeah ive never heard a mayor representing a city curse on tv interviews radio interviews at least 3 seperate times. Saying that the government needs to get their ****ing ass's here immediatly. Are you kidding man that whole city is trash.
11-12-2005, 08:04 PM #27Originally Posted by SpringsBridge7
They had ample time to prepare and evacuate areas.The stupid bastards decided to ride out a Cat 4 storm.Again,intelligence at it's finest.
We here in Florida had ample time to prepare as well.Most everyone had enough supplies to tough it out 4-6 days.Just the lack of electricity had ppl scrambling for ice and water that was drinkable.Gas was a huge issue as well.Still most intersections have no functioning lights.But we are getting through it with civil manners and perseverance.I have to say FEMA,The Red Cross and all the power companies that came from around the country to help us were just outstanding.My deepest gratitude goes out to all those workers.
11-12-2005, 08:37 PM #28if you were left for a week with no aid, under water, with no hope in sight your ass would loot for food and survival
I didn't think the topic of interest in looting was bottle water, batteries, and canned foods...
I read somewhere that when they went into a Walmart the only thing left were the country and western CD's....
11-12-2005, 08:37 PM #29Associate Member
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What you saw with Katrina was the mainly black underclass of NO living in a moral sewer act like the fvckin monkeys they are. As soon as the storm passed they looted, raped, and killed each other like fvckin animals... they just needed an excuse. Know wonder nobody wants to help them, and the people that have helped them have been beaten, raped, and assaulted...
They got what was comin to em. I hope they get hit with another hurricane that takes out the rest of them. Do you know how much black on white race crime there was down there? How much murder and lawlessness took place there?
Fvck em all... I hope they rot in their self-created hell.
parasite: An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.
11-12-2005, 09:07 PM #30
well this is good at least you guys are talking
I disagree with some of your opinions and tone but thats fine.
I think I should focus on this one simple fact out side of the disaster and the moments leadign up to it
namely this one:
New Orleans is still in disrepair with lack of funds and no hope in sight
and if they cant help themselves then BY GOD why cant the Federal Government take charge?
this is my last statement on the topic
thanks for the sharing of opinion and not deleting this thread
11-12-2005, 09:25 PM #31Originally Posted by Pinnacle
**** off pal.
And heres a link to refute your 'facts'
Anyone can become desperate.. it doesn't matter if you're from Florida or Lousiana
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11-12-2005, 09:26 PM #32VET
Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
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However, in fairness to the mayor, since the feds cut that funding, evacuation assistance and disaster planning should have been in place (because of the known issues with the levees).
btw- agree this belongs in the lounge- though also agree that its an issue with many elements and viewpoints- with failures, successes and "disappointments" on many levels.
as a note- with the lack of police presence and effectiveness, looting is quite common among chronically poor and criminally inclined (these are somewhat exclusive groups- though with cross presences) denizens of urban areas (regardless of location LA, FL, CA, MI, etc.)
11-12-2005, 09:50 PM #33Originally Posted by Red Monster
11-12-2005, 10:04 PM #34Originally Posted by Muscle_4_Hire
Uhhhh, lets not turn this into racism. There is a large black population in the New Orleans area that is very poor. Lack of education and poverty creates situations like this after a disaster. These people have nothing to lose and everything to gain in situations like that. That's the way you have to look at it. So the government is actually responsible for not controlling the crime and violence since that was a national disaster. They had local police trying to control that mess for the first week or so. The damn military should of been in there ASAP and most of this could of been prevented. I would like to see some of those looters trying to confront trained military perosnell like they did with the limited police force.
A lot of this can be blamed on city government and that idiot mayor. All they can do is get on TV and complain when they didn't require their people to evacuate ahead of time with resources to do so.
11-12-2005, 10:06 PM #35Originally Posted by Pinnacle
11-12-2005, 11:25 PM #36Associate Member
Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
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This is not the government's fault. Asian people, for example, come over here from absolutely nothing but work hard and save their whole lives... now look at them in America now. They have goddamn empire...
What did the Irish have when they came over in mid 19th century? Nothing. Now look at them...
The people in Sri Lanka make 1/5th of what the poorest people in New Orleans make and they didn't rape, loot, or kill each other!?
I hope you haven't gotten your facts off CNN. Go to the BBC and check that sh-t out since American TV needs to be so PC these days
11-13-2005, 01:07 AM #37Originally Posted by Pinnacle
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