Thread: Space exploration. Unneccesary??
11-13-2005, 12:30 PM #1
Space exploration. Unneccesary??
How do most people here feel about space exploration? Do you feel it is a waste of space or would you want to se funds increased??
I guess most know my oppinion. Im all for increasing funding for space exploration alot. I think its sad that we dont even have a moon base yet when thinking about how long has passed since man set foot there. Its a shame that we havent been to mars yet.
There are so many potentialy HUGE markets that can open with space exploration. Asteroid mining could easily be a billion dollar industry. Would also spare earth from the polution and enviromental dangers connected mining down here.
The solution to the worlds energy problems is also in space. Huge solar panels in orbit that beams the energy back to earth with microwaves could be the the clean, safe, cheap and efficient energy source we are looking for until we crack the fusion nut. This would require a moon base so we can build the solar panels there(building them on earth and launching them would be far to expensive). The initial investment would be astronomical but it would be repaid in no time. We already have the technology for this its just a matter of enginering and financing.
The technical gadgets that would branch of would soon become part of everyday life and further boost space explorations economical value.
Researching medicine and many branches of technology in zero g would accelerate development alot.
But besides the purely economical. Space IS our future. Sooner or later man is gonna have to get out there, colonise new planets. Having the entire spieces on this planet is such a risk. There is no telling when a catastrophic event might happen that will eradicate mankind. We need to spread out to make sure our spieces will never die.
It would also be a noble goal to invest it. Far more noble than developing new weapon systems.
Something to make mankind proud of itself again. Reignite the fire for exploration that was so prelevant through out our history. Bring the world out of its apathy!!
11-13-2005, 01:07 PM #2
I can't think of an arguement against. Anyone care to present one?
11-13-2005, 01:38 PM #3
So you also want more funding to space exploration? How much do you think it could be raised and what other things would you cut down on in order to raise space funds??
11-13-2005, 02:03 PM #4
I think the most effective way to both accumulate funds and knowledge would be a sole international effort. These guys have the right idea: http://www.sisc.org/
Scientific reasoning is universal to all scientists so imo one organization would pose no real threat of (for lack of a better term) monopoly. i think anyone involved in such an effort is intrinsicly motivated to understand and explore space so I think the only real agenda would be scientific method.
11-13-2005, 02:09 PM #5
that is a great look at things. I guess ESA is the cloest thing since it is a collaboration betwen a buttload of nations. Russia is getting very involved in it aswell to develop a new kind of shuttle as is japan.
11-13-2005, 02:16 PM #6
greta quote from that site
The famous words of the first human to enter space, Yuri Gagarin, as he sat inside of his spacecraft waiting to begin the trip that would signal the beginning of the Space Age. Like him we are tired of the debating, the bickering, the delays and excuses, if there is to be future exploration of space we must begin taking concrete steps now and get on with pursuing humanity's natural instinct for exploration.
11-13-2005, 02:41 PM #7
here is some info on the shuttle project esa and russia is doing togheter. It seems very similar to the CEV that NASA is developing. Stupid that they cant just cooperate.
11-13-2005, 02:42 PM #8
11-13-2005, 02:53 PM #9Originally Posted by johan
Awesome, I've never seen that before. 4km magnetic track... genius!
11-13-2005, 03:26 PM #10Originally Posted by johan
11-13-2005, 03:40 PM #11Originally Posted by AIZ
would you be able to post that article? I know the atmospheric density on mars is roughly 1/100th that of earth. Plants would take a while. I read an interesting theory that stated due to a magnetic pole shift on mars, solar winds could have possibly "blown" most water and atmosphere off of mars.
11-13-2005, 03:49 PM #12Originally Posted by AIZ
I have all faith in humans finding a way to sneak by the speed limit. If it will be wormholes or some kind of drive that bends spacetime around it(like the theoretical Alcubierre drive). We can already beat the speed of light somewhat by messing with the vaccum fluctuations. But I guess that is just changing the permability of the vacuum.
Remember that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light in space. But nothing prevents space itself from traveling faster(the current cosmology model for instance require a inflation at the begining that exceeded the speed of light, but since it was space itself that expanded it doesnt break with general relativity).
11-13-2005, 03:55 PM #13
11-13-2005, 07:26 PM #14Originally Posted by johan
I don't have anything against sending people out to other planets, but I don't see much point to doing so, at least as long as it's possible to send robots out in space to do the same thing that humans would do.
11-13-2005, 08:07 PM #15
There are too many answers to be found not to support space travel. Also keep in mind that every few hundred million years life almost gets wiped out on our little rock. We need to get off of this rock before the next mass extinction.
11-13-2005, 08:14 PM #16
america would have never been occupied as it has if it wern't for explorers. Just because we think nothing is out there, dosen't mean we are right.
11-13-2005, 10:08 PM #17
I agree with you Johan but I don't think it is going to happen in the near future. Governments have other priorities and they are not very serious about space exploration.
11-13-2005, 11:23 PM #18Originally Posted by Tock
But I think the most important reason is survival of mankind.
Not to mention that technology to put man into space will never become cheap unless money is invested it in. the cheer thrill of going around in space is enough for me to se any money thrown at it
11-14-2005, 12:32 PM #19Originally Posted by Alex2
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