11-19-2005, 05:22 AM #1Associate Member
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Your national flag's \ emblem's symbolism
Im just wondering about this because i like to look at different flags and emblems of countries (or people's 'without' a country ) and understand what they mean and where they originated from.
The Irish flag is green white and orange, and was first used by the Young Irelander rebels in the 1840's (except it was orange white and green), and the meaning of the colors was that the Green represented the native irish population of ireland, the Orange represented the descendants of British settlers who came to ireland as part of the plantations in the 17th century and the white represented peace and unity between the 2 'traditions' of ireland, and thats still the meaning today. It became popular again when Sinn Fein adopted it as the flag of the irish republic during the war of independence, and when the irish free state came into existence it was chosen as the national flag.
The emblem is a golden harp on a blue background, called the 'Brian Boru harp' (he was a High King of Ireland). In 1798 the United Irishmen changed the color blue in the background to green because green symbolised revolution or something and that became the unofficial flag of ireland until the tricolor became more popular
11-20-2005, 04:33 PM #2
I have no clue what the yellow cross or blue background represent. Need to look that up.
11-20-2005, 04:38 PM #3
swedish national coat of arms
11-20-2005, 04:46 PM #4
its in my avatar , red is the blood of the martyrs , the cedar is because we are the only arab country with cedars and because it mean immortality , and the white is the snow on our mountains.
11-20-2005, 07:45 PM #5
The cross is probably for catholic religion. Just like the moon is for islam
11-20-2005, 08:37 PM #6
American Flag, 50 stars for 50 states, and the red and white stipes represent something else which I don't remember. It is not the original flag, as new states were formed.
11-20-2005, 10:23 PM #7
stripes represent the original 13 colonies
11-21-2005, 12:04 AM #8
11-21-2005, 09:59 AM #9
This is the most widely accepted flag which is the Rebel flag for Chechnya, it comes in variations, some that includes the coat of arms, and some without.
The Green represents Islam.
The coat of arms of Chechnya (Ichkeria) consists of a reclining wolf with head raised, seated on the national ornament, inside a demilune with 9 pentagonal stars in the lower part of the outer circle.
The wolf is a symbol of independence, national pride, historical and moral strength of the Chechen people, and has been in use since the late 18th century. The 9 stars represent the original 9 teips (clans) from which the Chechens are said to have descended.
The Russian backed Chechen government came out with a new flag in 2004, but it has not been accepted by locals or Chechen leaders.
Last edited by CAUSASIAN; 11-21-2005 at 10:03 AM.
11-21-2005, 02:39 PM #10Originally Posted by big daddy k de
looks like an Italian coat of arms
11-21-2005, 03:17 PM #11
The cross who is in white represents our catholic and christian heritage and a catholic nation.
The lys represents the french monarchy, same with the blue azur color who comes out since the year 1000.
the flag draws also his roots to the french navy official flag but without flowers, a similar flag no with flowers was the one of the first french regiment that landed in north america.
11-21-2005, 07:11 PM #12Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
You are french? Do you speak french?
11-21-2005, 07:13 PM #13Originally Posted by Prada
11-21-2005, 08:17 PM #14
Yes I speaks french
11-21-2005, 09:30 PM #15
Nice to meet a fellow frenchman.
11-21-2005, 09:39 PM #16Originally Posted by Prada
11-21-2005, 10:37 PM #17Originally Posted by Alex2
cross = christianity
11-21-2005, 10:59 PM #18Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
11-22-2005, 01:41 AM #19Originally Posted by Alex2
The swedish cross might just be a copy of the danish flag. The danish flag is the oldest flag in europe and Im not sure if the danish cross is a christian cross.
11-22-2005, 12:47 PM #20
Oh no, here we go again.
11-22-2005, 03:26 PM #21
flags it was, not french lesson.
11-22-2005, 03:30 PM #22Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
11-22-2005, 03:53 PM #23Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
11-22-2005, 10:31 PM #24Originally Posted by johan
11-23-2005, 04:25 PM #25
heres the native flag of georgia, not the country. incorporates the st andrews cross, symbolizing "resistance to tyranny," or "we aint gonna take your ____."
11-23-2005, 10:43 PM #26Originally Posted by johan
it's found on the flags off all scandanavian countries, as well as finland and britain (the red and white one). besides finland (which has been dominated by the scandanvians) all of these countries spoke the same language a little over a thousand years ago, so there is much shared cultural heritige. i would guess that the flag was started a a couple centuries after the final end of the vking era, when all of western europe was catholic (there weren;t any protestants until luther same around. after a little after the first millenium, even norway was converted to catholicism so they all would have been catholic when the danish flag first came into use- which is said to be around 1200 under the danish crusaders.
one thing that's intrigued me for some time is i wonder if the swedish flag's color are supposed to represent blonde hair + blue eyes
in "gravity's rainbow" there is this poem in german that's an ode to yellow and blue i can't remmeber how it goes exactly but it's def. an allusion to the swedish colors.
11-24-2005, 04:41 AM #27Originally Posted by J.S.N.
11-24-2005, 10:45 AM #28Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
alot of ancient european poems and songs contain references to flaxen hair and things like that. i've read a lot of poetry fragments from around 500bc in sparta about women and they almost always mention blonde hair- a distinctive trait of the dorian greeks of that time.
the pynchon poem is definitely racist though, although it's completely farcical.
11-24-2005, 11:30 AM #29Originally Posted by J.S.N.
I dont think the swedish flag represents blonde hair and blue eyes. The yellow cross is taken from the coat of arms most historians think, since the coat of arms is older than the flag
11-24-2005, 07:40 PM #30Originally Posted by johan
11-24-2005, 09:56 PM #31
I found two different explanations online but not sure how accurate they are.
1) The Sweden flag is modeled after the Denmark flag and also features the Scandinavian cross. The Sweden flag, although similar to many flags in its region, is crafted with blue and yellow as the two key colors in its flag. The blue and yellow that are used on the Sweden flag stem from the Swedish national coat of arms. The Sweden flag was adopted on June 22, 1906 The Swedish Flag Day is celebrated on June 6th of every year. It was on this day in 1523 that the Swedish society elected King Gustav Vasa. In 1809, Sweden adopted their new constitution on the same day.
2) According to Ancient and Heraldic traditions much symbolism is associated with colors. The colors on the Swedish flag represent the following:
Yellow - a symbol of generosity.
Blue - vigilance, truth and loyalty, perseverance & justice.
11-25-2005, 11:53 AM #32
The Israeli Flag
The flag is an attachment.
Blue Stripes: The blue stripes on the Zionist flag were inspired by the stripes on the tallit (prayer shawl).
Star of David: Unlike the menora (candelabrum), the Lion of Judah, the shofar (ram's horn) and the lulav (palm frond), the Star of David was never a uniquely Jewish symbol. The standard name for the geometric shape is a hexagram or six-pointed star, composed of two interlocking equilateral triangles. In a classic article, Gershom Sholem shed light on the history of the "Star of David" and its connection with Judaism and tried to answer the question whether it was appropriate to include it in the national flag or state emblem.
According to Sholem, the motive for the widespread use of the Star of David was a wish to imitate Christianity. During the Emancipation, Jews needed a symbol of Judaism parallel to the cross, the universal symbol of Christianity. In particular, they wanted something to adorn the walls of the modern Jewish house of worship that would be symbolic like the cross. This is why the Star of David became prominent in the nineteenth century and why it was later used on ritual objects and in synagogues and eventually reached Poland and Russia. The pursuit of imitation, in Sholem's opinion, led to the dissemination of an emblem that was not really Jewish and conveyed no Jewish message. In his opinion, it was also the reason why the Star of David satisfied Zionism: it was a symbol which had already attained wide circulation among the Jewish communities but at the same time evoked no clear-cut religious associations. The Star of David became the emblem of Zionist Jews everywhere. Non-Jews regarded it as representing not only the Zionist current in Judaism, but Jewry as a whole.
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