Thread: Bush family is nosey
11-30-2005, 04:07 PM #1
Bush family is nosey
Okay why is it when both Bush Adminastration was around, the U.S. was involved in other country affairs??? What some Americans dont understand is that some of the 3rd world countries like the way there country is ran. Believe it or not some countries like living under a dictatorship. i'm just saying that there are a lot of issues in the U.S. for the President spending billions and sending Hundred of Thoushands of soldiers (Including my wife). I'm all for helping the welfare of others but not at the cost of our fellow Americans. Not only that but Bush Jr. is an idiot, damn guy doesnt even know how to open a door.
11-30-2005, 06:07 PM #2Originally Posted by Nismo
11-30-2005, 07:09 PM #3Originally Posted by AIZ
Democracy in Iraq? Spread democracy? democracy is a western concept that might not be suitable to some people and ideas ie: Middle east.
maybe it is time that us the western world, close our doors, and let the third world countries live their own and develop their own, while doing economic relationship.
everyone will be happy, we'll all be happy....
Iraq is not for oil, neither democracy or ousting a dude, its about Babylon!
11-30-2005, 09:00 PM #4Originally Posted by AIZ
11-30-2005, 09:09 PM #5Originally Posted by Nismo
By the way, was that related to spreading democracy too?
12-01-2005, 01:38 AM #6Originally Posted by Alex2
12-01-2005, 01:41 AM #7Originally Posted by Alex2
No, that was related to the 2 US Embassy bombings, which killed hundred of people, mostly Muslims. There is also speculation that he acted militarily to take the focus off of the fun he had in the Oval Office. Either way, history has shown as that Clinton never acted when he should have against al-Qa'ida. Had he done so, things might be different today.
12-01-2005, 10:38 AM #8Originally Posted by AIZ
If the US had not brought Saddam to power and supplied him with materials and knowledge to produce weapons and wage war against Iran.......history would have been different.......
You see.......the problem is war and covert operations and lies and deception are never the RIGHT answer.......it may be an answer and a temporary fix.......but war is NEVER the RIGHT answer
12-01-2005, 10:52 AM #9Originally Posted by Badgerman
All the politicos that are bashing Bush were all for taking out saddam prior to the war.
12-01-2005, 10:54 AM #10Originally Posted by Badgerman
And may I point out that this is another mindless thing that you have said. So war wasnt the right answer after 9/11 or Pearl Harbor?
12-01-2005, 10:57 AM #11Originally Posted by roidattack
12-01-2005, 10:59 AM #12
Every World War has been waged with the implication that it would end conflict........war never ends conflict.......so it is always the WRONG response to provocation........we need leaders who think outside of this boxed in world view
12-01-2005, 11:02 AM #13Originally Posted by AIZ
12-01-2005, 11:09 AM #14
Our country's primary motivation is to establish MARKETS.......controlling currency........we are CAPITALISTS........our motive is money.......we could care less about the government if we make MONEY.......Saddam interfered with making MONEY......therefore he became a problem........Bin Laden and the Taliban interfered with our making money both through oil and the poppy trade.......it's hard to fund the CIA without a steady flow of poppies
12-01-2005, 11:10 AM #15Originally Posted by Badgerman
The only conflicts that have been truly resolved in history were with the aggressive use of force. George Washington shouldnt have went to war?
I still dont believe that you truly think that we should have laid down after Pearl Harbor. If so, you are damn lucky to have people defending you who think differently. You would be toast.
12-01-2005, 11:21 AM #16Originally Posted by Badgerman
war played a huge role in ending the great depression, gave people jobs and factories something essential to produce
for germany, starting WWII was a great way to try to recover from the horrible position they were put in after WWI(forced to pay other countries war expences, lost a ton of territories, basically boned) unlike france which was basically put back where it started before it started its own world wars w/ napoleon
the holocaust was wrong, but the was was not
12-01-2005, 11:24 AM #17Originally Posted by roidattack
You have NO IDEA how history would have been played out with a different mindset.........we might have a world of friends instead of adversaries.
Hopefully all the people who like to fight die in conflict......remove this defective thinking from the gene pool......the worst thing is to let them have kids.......more kids that like to fight........hopefully all these kids that like the war video games are sitting in front of the playstation and not breeding their half-wit girlfriends.........violent half-wits breeding to stupid girls.......our future leaders and military
12-01-2005, 11:27 AM #18Originally Posted by Badgerman
I figured it out. Your just an asshole. I will quit trying to reason with you.
12-01-2005, 11:54 AM #19Originally Posted by roidattack
Yeah that's right........people like you that love war and violence call me an asshole........thank you for the compliment!!
12-01-2005, 11:59 AM #20Originally Posted by Badgerman
12-01-2005, 12:02 PM #21Originally Posted by symatech
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12-01-2005, 01:01 PM #23Originally Posted by Badgerman
12-01-2005, 01:04 PM #24Originally Posted by AIZ
12-01-2005, 02:00 PM #25Originally Posted by roidattack
Enough with the name calling.
12-01-2005, 02:57 PM #26Originally Posted by Badgerman
No wasnt him, it was Abu Nidal
12-01-2005, 03:02 PM #27Originally Posted by Badgerman
12-01-2005, 03:13 PM #28Originally Posted by Badgerman
"Oliver North did not testify about or speak the name Osama bin Laden during the Iran-Contra hearings. He claimed that threats against his life had been made by terrorist Abu Nidal, telling a congressional committee:
'I want you to know that I'd be more than willing . . . to meet Abu Nidal on equal terms anywhere in the world. There's an even deal for him. OK? But I am not willing to have my wife and my four children meet Abu Nidal or his organization on his terms.'"
"FROM THE DESK OF LTCOL OLIVER L. NORTH (USMC) RET.
NOVEMBER 28, 2001
OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL THOUSAND E-MAILS FROM EVERY STATE IN THE U.S. AND 13 FOREIGN COUNTRIES IN WHICH THE ORIGINATOR PURPORTS TO HAVE RECENTLY VIEWED A VIDEOTAPE OF MY SWORN TESTIMONY BEFORE A CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE IN 1987.
A COPY OF ONE OF THOSE E-MAILS IS ATTACHED BELOW. AS YOU WILL NOTE, THE ORIGINATOR ATTRIBUTES TO ME CERTAIN STATEMENTS REGARDING USAMA BIN LADEN AND OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE SIMPLY INACCURATE. THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO CLAIM THE GIFT OF PROPHESY, I DON'T HAVE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO SAW WHAT VIDEO "AT UNC." (OR ANYWHERE ELSE) BUT, FOR THE RECORD, HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW:
1. IT WAS THE COMMITTEE COUNSEL, JOHN NIELDS, NOT A SENATOR WHO WAS DOING THE QUESTIONING.
2. THE SECURITY SYSTEM, INSTALLED AT MY HOME, JUST BEFORE I MADE A VERY SECRET TRIP TO TEHRAN, COST, ACCORDING TO THE COMMITTEE, $16K, NOT $60K.
3. THE TERRORIST WHO THREATENED TO KILL ME IN 1986, JUST BEFORE THAT SECRET TRIP TO TEHRAN, WAS NOT USAMA BIN LADEN, IT WAS ABU NIDAL (WHO WORKS FOR THE LIBYANS — NOT THE TALIBAN AND NOT IN AFGHANISTAN).
4. I NEVER SAID I WAS AFRAID OF ANYBODY. I DID SAY THAT I WOULD BE GLAD TO MEET ABU NIDAL ON EQUAL TERMS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD BUT THAT I WAS UNWILLING TO HAVE HIM OR HIS OPERATIVES MEET MY WIFE AND CHILDREN ON HIS TERMS.
5. I DID SAY THAT THE TERRORISTS INTERCEPTED BY THE FBI ON THE WAY TO MY HOUSE IN FEB. 87 TO KILL MY WIFE, CHILDREN AND ME WERE LIBYANS, DISPATCHED FROM THE PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE FOR LIBYAN STUDENTS IN MCLEAN, VIRGINIA.
6. AND I DID SAY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD MOVED MY FAMILY OUT OF OUR HOME TO A MILITARY BASE (CAMP LEJEUNE, NC) UNTIL THEY COULD DISPATCH MORE THAN 30 AGENTS TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM THOSE TERRORISTS (BECAUSE A LIBERAL FEDERAL JUDGE HAD ALLOWED THE LYBIAN ASSASSINS TO POST BOND AND THEY FLED).
7. AND, FYI: THOSE FEDERAL AGENTS REMAINED AT OUR HOME UNTIL I RETIRED FROM THE MARINES AND WAS NO LONGER A "GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL." BY THEN, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAD SPENT MORE THAN $2M PROTECTING THE NORTH FAMILY. THE TERRORISTS SENT TO KILL US WERE NEVER RE-APPREHENDED.
OLIVER L. NORTH
In mid-2002, the "Oliver North warned us about Osama" falsity was twinned in e-mail with another wildly popular Internet muddling, the "We freed Mohammed Atta" claim. Like its North counterpart, the Atta story was half-baked at best; it was a different Atta."
12-03-2005, 12:10 PM #29Originally Posted by roidattack
12-03-2005, 12:27 PM #30Originally Posted by Nismo
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