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    India greatly expanding its navy

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    India Unveils Naval Blueprint For Indian Ocean Dominance

    What all successful superpowers need.
    by Pratap Chakravarty
    New Delhi (AFP) Dec 02, 2005
    India announced Friday ambitious acquisition plans for its navy and said the new military hardware would give it greater clout in the strategic energy corridors of the Indian Ocean.
    It also said the Indian navy, besides constructing or buying ships, submarines and aircraft, was also building ties with countries in the region to expand its bluewater reach in the Indian Ocean.

    "The Indian Ocean is now the highway along which over a quarter of the world's trade and energy requirements move," Indian Navy chief Admiral Arun Prakash told a news conference in New Delhi.

    "The Asia-Pacific region holds immense promise for political, economic and military cooperation and the vital role maritime forces play in this regard makes the Indian Navy a key component of the nation's foreign policy." The 137-ship navy played an international role during last December's tsunami last December when New Delhi deployed its warships to help devastated Sri Lanka and Indonesia.

    Analysts saw the move as a bid by India, which rejected Western bilateral offers of help during the tsunami, to project itself as a regional power with off-shore military strength.

    "It became our defining moment as people could perceive the speed with we could react (to the tsumani)," Prakash said of the operation to help victims in two foreign countries as well as in India's far-flung Andamans archipelago.

    "The exercises we undertook with various navies in the past year underline the theme that we have reached out far into the Indian Ocean region," he added.

    The navy has already handed out contracts for construction of 27 vessels to state-owned ship-builders and has embarked on its grandest mission to indigenously build an aircraft carrier, Prakash said.

    "We're reducing dependence on foreign suppliers to cut down revenue drain and uncertainties in supplies," he said, adding that a recent 2.1 billion-dollar deal to acquire six French Scorpene submarines would enhance naval strength.

    "There are 36 more ships on the cards and I don't think there is any navy in the world which currently has such a large project in hand," he said.

    "India aspires to a certain position in the world and so we must have a navy commensurate to our needs," he said, adding New Delhi has asked Russia, its largest military supplier, to provide three latest destroyer-class warships.

    Senior military officials said the navy was also shopping for 30 long-range helicopters to replace its British-built Sea King rotorcraft and was awaiting a US offer to lease to India two anti-submarine warfare P-3 Orion aircraft.

    "We have not yet received the offer for the Orions and we think it could turn out to be a very costly project," the admiral said.

    The navy was also awaiting delivery of a refurbished Soviet-era aircraft carrier from the Russians as well a wide-bodied Illushyn-76 aircraft -- re-configured for maritime surveillance.

    India, which declared itself a nuclear weapons state after exploding a string of atomic devices in 1998, is seeking to establish a triad of land, air and sea launch platforms for missile-based weapons.

    Admiral Prakash said the navy, which has bases in the Arabian Sea and the Bay of Bengal, was also working on a complex project to link up its warships and submarines via satellite.

    "We've taken small steps in this major direction as this is a very complex and expensive project," he said, adding the navy would fund construction of an exclusive satellite for the project if necessary.

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    Well its an emerging regional super power. It doent have great relations with China on some territorial dispute or Pakistan. It's recent econmic success permits them to strengthen their military

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada
    Well its an emerging regional super power. It doent have great relations with China on some territorial dispute or Pakistan. It's recent econmic success permits them to strengthen their military
    More than not having "great relations with China", it will be battling china for some type of superpower status. At the same time, China and India will also be battling Japan, an already economic powerhouse. India is in a very good position to strengthen her military. She's in a tough region!

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    still they are 60 years behind in term of military technologies

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    they got a buttload of competent scientists and enginers in india so I think the 60 year lead the west got in military tech will be shrunk alot.

    But instead of trying to become a military power they should build infrastructure.

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    seems like russia is the winner in all this arming upp on the behalf of developing nations. India, china, iran ect ect ect they are all buying russian weapons

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    Quote Originally Posted by johan
    seems like russia is the winner in all this arming upp on the behalf of developing nations. India, china, iran ect ect ect they are all buying russian weapons

    cheaper, cost effective and proven

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    India/China/Pakistan and that area will be the next power block of the world. Including the states of Taiwan, Singapore and others.

    Power will shift from the Atlantic to the Asian region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
    India/China/Pakistan and that area will be the next power block of the world. Including the states of Taiwan, Singapore and others.

    Power will shift from the Atlantic to the Asian region.
    Not for a very long time. Economics is only one part of being a superpower...they have a long way to go. Pakistan doesn't belong in that category. And no, not b/c its a Muslim country but b/c it isn't an economic powerhouse like India and China. The only clout that she has is nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AIZ
    Not for a very long time. Economics is only one part of being a superpower...they have a long way to go. Pakistan doesn't belong in that category. And no, not b/c its a Muslim country but b/c it isn't an economic powerhouse like India and China. The only clout that she has is nukes.
    Pakistan will be a player in that game, because as India and China progresses, so will Pakistan. Just like Mexico gained when the US became a power. So will Pakistan when India and China grow. And having nukes helps.

    Pakistan's economic growth rate is 6.1 compared to India's 6.2. The advantage India has is population thats about it.

    India is the second largest Muslim nation in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
    Pakistan will be a player in that game, because as India and China progresses, so will Pakistan. Just like Mexico gained when the US became a power. So will Pakistan when India and China grow. And having nukes helps.

    Pakistan's economic growth rate is 6.1 compared to India's 6.2. The advantage India has is population thats about it.

    India is the second largest Muslim nation in the world.
    India is the third largest. Pakistan is the second largest. Pakistan doesn't come close to being anywhere near India in areas such as hi-tech and outsourcing companies. Pakistan is not the same as the above three you have mentioned.

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    There are more Muslims in India than Pakistan.

    You have to first compare the populations of the two countries. Pakistan is trying to copy India's economic model, because Pakistan also has well trained professionals who speak English, because of British occupation. The problem is its not secure because of government.

    But its economy is still growing at the same rate as India.

    I have lived in Bangelore in India for 6 months, and lived in Pakistan for 6 months. India is a beautiful country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
    There are more Muslims in India than Pakistan.
    Read for yourself

    Largest Muslim Populations in the World
    Rank Country Muslim Population
    1 Indonesia 182,570,000
    2 Pakistan 134,480,000
    3 India 121,000,000
    4 Bangladesh 114,080,000
    5 Turkey 65,510,000
    6 Iran 62,430,000
    7 Egypt 58,630,000
    8 Nigeria 53,000,000
    9 Algeria 30,530,000
    10 Morocco 28,780,000
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
    But its economy is still growing at the same rate as India.
    Indian Economy Overview

    INTRODUCTION
    Economics experts and various studies conducted across the globe envisage India and China to rule the world in the 21st century. For over a century the United States has been the largest economy in the world but major developments have taken place in the world economy since then, leading to the shift of focus from the US and the rich countries of Europe to the two Asian giants- India and China.

    The rich countries of Europe have seen the greatest decline in global GDP share by 4.9 percentage points, followed by the US and Japan with a decline of about 1 percentage point each. Within Asia, the rising share of China and India has more than made up the declining global share of Japan since 1990. During the seventies and the eighties, ASEAN countries and during the eighties South Korea, along with China and India, contributed to the rising share of Asia in world GDP.

    According to some experts, the share of the US in world GDP is expected to fall (from 21 per cent to 18 per cent) and that of India to rise (from 6 per cent to 11 per cent in 2025), and hence the latter will emerge as the third pole in the global economy after the US and China.

    By 2025 the Indian economy is projected to be about 60 per cent the size of the US economy. The transformation into a tri-polar economy will be complete by 2035, with the Indian economy only a little smaller than the US economy but larger than that of Western Europe. By 2035, India is likely to be a larger growth driver than the six largest countries in the EU, though its impact will be a little over half that of the US.

    India, which is now the fourth largest economy in terms of purchasing power parity, will overtake Japan and become third major economic power within 10 years.

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    http://www.spacewar.com/news/india-05zzzb.html

    India And Russia Sign Major Defense Agreements


    Moscow (SPX) Dec 07, 2005
    Cementing their strategic partnership, India and Russia today signed three agreements, including one on protection of intellectual property rights to regulate joint defence work, reports PTI.
    The agreements were signed after one-on-one summit talks between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Russian President Vladimir Putin following delegation-level parleys covering areas of India's requirement of civilian nuclear energy, cooperation in space sector and ways of enhancing bilateral economic and trade ties.

    International terrorism and ways to combat it also figured prominently during the parleys.

    The agreements were signed in the presence of the Prime Minister and the Russian President after the talks.

    Besides, Russia's Federal Space Agency and ISRO signing an agreement on cooperation in the field of solar physics, India and Russia signed a Technology Safeguard Agreement to operationalise the 2004 pact on joint use of space-based Global Navigational Satellite System to provide for joint development of new generation navigational satellites.

    IPR protection covered by agreement

    One of the key agreements signed between the two sides was protection of intellectual property rights that will regulate joint defence work.

    "India and Russia share the perspective to move towards collaborative defence projects, designs, develop and market next generation military products," Singh said at the joint conference with Putin.

    "Russia has decided to futher partnership in civilian nuclear projects. There is vast potential to increasing cooperation between the two countries given India's growing energy requirements," the Prime Minister said.

    The Kudankulam power project in Tamil Nadu which is being constructed with Russian help will be commissioned in 2007-8, he said.

    "We have identified medium range transport aircraft and fifth generation fighter aircraft," Singh said.

    Talking about the parleys, the Russian President said "serious discussions took place on international and regional politics. Our approaches to resolve the issues are consonant. Russia and India firmly believe that we will work towards multipolar system of international relations."

    On the issue of terrorism, he said "we resolutely condemn any act of terror and also double standards in combating the evil.We are convinced that criminals who murder and maim have no justification for their acts.

    Both countries will make efforts to isolate terrorists politically and ideologically and bring them to justice, he added.

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