12-26-2005, 11:19 PM #1
North American immigration is on the rise
Yeah baby...keep 'em coming
Just proves that Palestinian terror won't hold people back from dreams
North American immigration hits highest level since 1983
NEW YORK - The immigration rate from North America this year is the highest it has been since 1983, according to the Jewish Agency: More than 3,100 North Americans will have moved to Israel by the end of 2005.
In addition, a study conducted by pollster Mina Tzemach found that 93 percent of American immigrants questioned for the survey were satisfied (49 percent) or very satisfied (44 percent) with their absorption in Israel.
The statistics were prepared ahead of an El Al flight carrying 202 North American immigrants to Israel that leaves tomorrow from John F. Kennedy Airport in New York.
The Nefesh B'Nefesh flight will be the seventh one from North America this year. The flight was organized by the Jewish Agency as well as Nefesh B'Nefesh, an organization that facilitates immigration, assists immigrants financially and helps them find work in Israel.
A Nefesh B'Nefesh official said yesterday that of the 3,100 North Americans classified as immigrants this year, some 300 were already living in Israel when they changed their status.
Michael Landsberg, the executive director of the Jewish Agency's North American Aliyah Delegation, told Haaretz yesterday that 2005 is the third year running that has seen a consistent increase in the number of North American immigrants to Israel.
The vast majority of the people arriving on this week's flight, which is set to land at Ben-Gurion International Airport on Wednesday afternoon, have post-secondary degrees, and two-thirds are younger than 35, said Landsberg.
The central factor in immigrants' satisfaction with their immigration is employment, according to the research conducted by Tzemach, who examined the reactions of immigrants and their assessments of their absorption process.
According to the study, 50 percent of immigrants who have found jobs in their profession are very satisfied, compared to a satisfaction rate of 41 percent among those who are working out of their profession.
The study also showed that 64 percent of immigrants cited friends and family in Israel as having helped them in their absorption here, while 59 percent cited their Jewish Agency immigration emissary and 39 percent cited Nefesh B'Nefesh.
Most of the people who immigrate to Israel through Nefesh B'Nefesh are between the ages of 35 and 54 and are married with small children.
12-27-2005, 06:04 AM #2Retired Vet
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And I hear in the news this week that there's a new settled getting built in the West Bank to accommodate these news emigrants. Is this really the way to go?.
12-27-2005, 08:40 AM #3
I dont know how people dont see something horribly wrong with this. Keep importing foriegners for other lands to Israel, while displacing the local Palestinians, just because these people happen to be Jewish.
12-27-2005, 09:38 AM #4Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
12-27-2005, 10:05 AM #5Originally Posted by AIZ
Presence for 3300 years?
Most are European with no ties to Israel. Spain and Europe is the homeland to the majority of the Jews.
You left the area, now you cant come back and displace the local population. You cannot reserved land for 3000 years.
What is happening is a crime against humanity. This concept of "Aalyiahh"
12-27-2005, 10:32 AM #6
The Gaza Withdrawal and the rest were all a farce. Israel keeps building settlements in Palestine.
Israel has announced plans to build 228 new homes in Jewish settlements in the West Bank, just outside Jerusalem.
The move appears to breach commitments by Israel to freeze settlement activity in occupied territory, under the US-backed "road map" peace plan.
A spokesman said the building would take place in settlements - Beitar Illit and Efrat - that Israel intends to keep under any peace deal.
Palestinian officials condemned the move and urged the US to intervene.
The news emerged when the Israeli housing ministry placed a newspaper advertisement on Monday inviting tenders to build 150 housing units in Beitar Illit and another 78 in Efrat.
The two communities are part of the Gush Etzion settlement bloc - part of the territory Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has vowed to keep under any final accord with the Palestinians.
12-27-2005, 11:07 AM #7Originally Posted by BOUNCER
12-27-2005, 11:57 AM #8
Being niether Israeli nor "Palestinian", whatever that is, I really do not care how these guys work this out, but there has to be some cut off point at which folks can come in and claim land just by virtue of being Jewish. I belive that Israeli Jews have been doing the right thing by protecting themselves from the Jordanian/Egyptians/Lebanese/Syrain threat throughout the years, but allowing non-Israelis to come in and set up camp might rub raise an eye brow with the local populace. Being Jew by religion and Israeli are not ulimately linked. Of course I think that Jew or Christian should have the right to make a pilgrimage to the Holy Land, but to say that is a birth-right to own some property there...I do not know...
If that goes the same for Orthodox Christians, I must have a plot of land somewhere in the Holy Land as well!
12-27-2005, 11:58 AM #9Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
12-27-2005, 11:58 AM #10
Causasian, you asked why the US will not get involved...well it is not the US goverments place to determine Israeli immigration policy.
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12-27-2005, 12:14 PM #11Retired Vet
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Sorry AIZ but when anytime I was in Northern Israel looking at the vast expanses of land there I wondered why your government continued to build settlements on occupied terrorities?. You know I love your country but these are questions I've wondered about. You DON'T NEED those lands in the West Bank.
12-27-2005, 01:14 PM #12Originally Posted by Animal Cracker
No, its not a good point. The re-establishment of Israel was to make a safe-haven for the Jewish People...I'll repeat more clearly: Israel was rebuilt in order to be a home to ALL JEWISH PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. To say that the State of Israel is not home to all Jews is saying that you don't understand why the state exists.
12-27-2005, 01:18 PM #13Originally Posted by BOUNCER
And you don't need Northern Ireland so give it to the British. That's the same claim you're making here. The State of Israel believes the "West Bank", that is, Judea and Samaria, are part of Israel. First Gaza, then Judea and Samaria...they're eating us via politics. Even the PA has admitted that Olso was a "trojan horse"...to get into Israel and spread from the inside to the outside. People look upon Israel as the agressors when in fact people have no idea just how dangerous the Palestinian People really are.
12-27-2005, 01:29 PM #14Originally Posted by Alex2
FYI: Settlement building, despite BS media reports, was never a stipulation in Oslo..it did not go against the agreement.
Why should we GIVE them land? Let Jordan give them land...or Syria or anyother of the 22 Arab states that "care" so much for the Palestinians. This is just another attempt to make Israel smaller and smaller. Why do you think that they didn't want us to unilaterally pullout from Gaza? Because they knew once this happened they had no chance of reaching their goal entering Israel. If we had stayed, we had a duty to them...now we don't. Nevertheless, guess who supplies water, electricity, food, and money...ISRAEL. We are sick of it. We keep giving and giving and what have we gotten in return?
Many say,once you pullout of Judea and Samaria the terror will stop? What proof is there? We pulled out of Gaza and more Qassam rockets are falling on cities. We pulled out of Lebanon and the Hezbollah continues to attack.
12-27-2005, 01:33 PM #15Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
Enough with the European Jews not being tied to Israel. I saw your post before and your source. It's typical biased revisionism. It's a sad argument
12-27-2005, 01:59 PM #16Originally Posted by AIZ
12-27-2005, 02:01 PM #17Originally Posted by AIZ
And the people of Abraham are Arabs and Jews. If you want to have a biblical argument about it, go for it, because I have had bibical arguments with Christian scholars on this very subject and won.
12-27-2005, 02:03 PM #18Originally Posted by AIZ
Do all Irish people from across the world have the right to go back to Ireland and displace the Irish people.
Can the millions of Irish Americans go to Ireland and displace local Irish people. With the local Irish people welcome this influx.
12-27-2005, 02:06 PM #19Originally Posted by AIZ
There has to be resistance, and very strong resistance until this goal is accomplished. Resistance in terms of media, arms, and success.
12-27-2005, 02:13 PM #20Originally Posted by AIZ
They WONT because that would endanger the "Jewish Identity" of Israel.
So they wont annex or let them be independent.
What they are doing by holding the West Bank is, they are systematically ethnic cleansing the Palestinians while adding more Jews in there. And then annex it, when its a Jews majority. That is the strategy.
Thank GOD the smart people realized this plan, and are responding to this evil plan everyday.
12-27-2005, 06:07 PM #21Retired Vet
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12-27-2005, 10:19 PM #22Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
Jews didnt leave Israel they were forced out by the Romans against their will.
12-27-2005, 10:28 PM #23Originally Posted by USfighterFC
12-27-2005, 10:30 PM #24
That site is "Crystal Links" without the space and those stars.
12-27-2005, 11:02 PM #25
Its not actually on a rise as a whole, its becoming lesser, especially since the start of the recent intifida that started in 2000.
Immigration to Israel
12-27-2005, 11:06 PM #26Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
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12-27-2005, 11:07 PM #27Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
12-28-2005, 08:00 AM #28Originally Posted by BOUNCER
Israeli Arabs live within Israel's borders, some within their own villages, some within population centers such as Tel Aviv, Haifa and Jerusalem. The declaration of independence guaranteed minority rights to exist as such. However, the concept of Jews living inside Palestinian territory is not even up for debate. Some Israelis would happily live under PA jurisdiction at their own risk if they were allowed to but the Palestinians are vehemently opposed to such a concept. Why can't a small community of Jews continue to live in Hebron under Palestinian rule - because they will suffer the same fate as their predecessors in the 1929 massacre.
In 57 years we have brought a colossal wealth of knowledge to the world. The Palestinians have brought nothing but terror and suffering including to their own people.
There is no argument. Either people know history and recognize the connection between the Jewish people and the Holy Land, or they put on their ignorant hat and try to rewrite history while listening to the pathetic lies being perpetrated by the Arab world. This is not a territorial dispute. This is not limited to Gaza, Judea & Samaria. Arab opposition to the existence of a jewish state anywhere in this region is due to inbred hatred of jews originating to the time of Mohammed.
When Mohammed proclaimed himself a prophet, the arab peoples at the time were mainly pagans and had no precedent of prophecy and no understanding of it. They recognised that the Jews had a tradition of prophets and turned to the Jews of Mecca and Medina for assistance in establishing the credibility of this self-proclaimed prophet. The Jews did not wish to interfere in this inter-arab dispute however Mohammed dragged them into the argument. Being the only people capable of proving that Mohammed was talking out of his anus and was nothing more than a false Prophet, Mohammed was obliged to eliminate the Jews in order to protect his position and take a lot of our customs under the banner of Islam.
The truth hurts doesn't it, C?
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12-28-2005, 09:38 AM #29Retired Vet
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You know your right. I am a hypocrit. In the eye's of most Irish nationals I'm a hypocrit for supporting Israel. In N.I. Protestants fly Israeli flags and Catholics fly PLO flags, why?. Because their the flags both sides here can indentify with. Irish nationals identify with the PLO (the IRA trained them too) because like Ireland their land were stolen from them. No thats not my view, however it is the view of the majority here and I'm seen as a hypocrit for it.
No you go figure. You know, sometimes Israeli's come accross to me like the mother watching her arkward recruit son marching out of step in his platoon, and telling everyone "Look, my son is the only one in step"!.
So tell me, what happens when there's no longer room for the immigrating Jews in Israel?.
12-28-2005, 10:56 AM #30Originally Posted by AIZ
"Israel", is a terrorist state, and there must be a war waged against it, and must be stopped, even if it takes 1000 years. One thing I plan to teach my kids is evil that exists in the world, and I will teach them the evils of Israel and why it needs to be stopped.
12-28-2005, 01:05 PM #31Originally Posted by BOUNCER
Originally Posted by BOUNCER
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12-28-2005, 01:11 PM #32Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
12-28-2005, 01:24 PM #33Originally Posted by AIZ
12-28-2005, 01:29 PM #34Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
12-28-2005, 02:14 PM #35Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
Thats why you're an idiot. You're literally the perfect example of the saying "Hate breeds hate." I'm not teaching my kid to take my opinions on everything in life, I'll let him decide what he likes and dislikes on his own. Do you understand why statements like these make you very disliked in this country? Funny how you hate this country so much and everything we stand for but you stay here and stick to it like a leech. Seriously I'm gonna go beneath my level and say if you dont like it, then get the **** out. You're so up for the destruction of Israel, why are you not on the front lines in the Intifada. I thought all Muslims are supposed to take heed with Fatwas, I sure as shit have heard a lot of them towards Israel so why havent you picked up a gun and taken up the fight yet?
12-28-2005, 02:18 PM #36Originally Posted by USfighterFC
He doesn't want to get bitch-slapped by a nice Jewish boy.
12-28-2005, 02:27 PM #37Originally Posted by AIZ
12-28-2005, 02:58 PM #38Originally Posted by USfighterFC
For some reason Americans think that hating Israel is hating America.
I would have no problem with the US one bit, and I would even support the Iraq campaign if the US wasnt so pro-Israeli and Zionist influenced.
They wont let me into "Israel".
Jihad is not only about fighting physically, but even by fighting Zionist propaganda is fighting the jihad.
12-28-2005, 03:04 PM #39Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
12-28-2005, 03:06 PM #40Originally Posted by USfighterFC
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