01-07-2006, 04:43 PM #1
I have finally understood what I was so afraid of.
Being found out.
01-07-2006, 04:50 PM #2
So you're gay? j/k What you talkin' 'bout books... you so crazy.
01-07-2006, 04:52 PM #3
Huh? Whatcha' talking about, Willis?
01-07-2006, 04:54 PM #4
why do you keep posting this crazy shit? Bored?
01-07-2006, 04:55 PM #5Originally Posted by Logan13
01-07-2006, 06:00 PM #6
You ok over there buddy??
01-07-2006, 06:01 PM #7
Originally Posted by johan
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01-07-2006, 06:44 PM #8Originally Posted by BeerBaron
01-07-2006, 07:09 PM #9Originally Posted by BeerBaron
Nope, not gay bro
The image we put on. A false image of man. An image built by culture.
We hide it, who we really are, we mask it. What is the true image of man, a objective one. I need to think about this more. Too tired.
01-07-2006, 07:10 PM #10Originally Posted by johan
Yeah almost three days, no sleep.
01-07-2006, 07:12 PM #11
By the way I am using old idea refirmished.
Its said that new truth is old truth revealed.
Also, all philosophy is footnotes back to plato. Thought I would throw that in.
01-07-2006, 07:30 PM #12Originally Posted by boots555
01-07-2006, 08:51 PM #13Originally Posted by boots555
So what does being found out mean? That people will find out the truth?
I guess everyone tries to project their self-image, somewhat utopian, as flawless as possible. I just believe you are not an exception to the rule. The thing is that people that have more to hide, stetch the truth more, sometimes to satisfy their own ego.
01-08-2006, 12:29 AM #14
What if I dont measure up.
01-08-2006, 01:30 AM #15Originally Posted by boots555
01-08-2006, 10:11 AM #16Originally Posted by boots555
To what? What man expects of you, or what God expects of you?
01-08-2006, 01:19 PM #17
yeah books, elaborate a little bit here. I'm actually surprised I have to ask you to write more . I've come to expect a 5 minute read time for most of your responses, let alone a thread you start.
01-08-2006, 03:53 PM #18Originally Posted by BeerBaron
...I hope I don't regret asking him to elaborate. I don't feel like reading a 10 page article from Dr. Longshankschristiandude...
01-08-2006, 06:28 PM #19
This reminds me of Saluu, you guys get all hot and bothered over nonsensical members.
01-08-2006, 06:57 PM #20
Every one here struggles with the same problem.
We hide behind a mask. A image of what we want you to see. THe world swollows us whole. We measure ourselves by some standard. Elaborate more later. All of you where a mask.
I am afraid to personally am afraid to fail.
01-08-2006, 07:31 PM #21
Well often people are afraid of "themselves", in essence that they will fail themselves.
01-08-2006, 08:42 PM #22
Sure so they hide. They go where they feel comfortable.
What if I dont measure up?
What if my marriage fails.?
What if she isnt attracted to me?
What if I am not the best?
We hide these thoughts and feelings, we mask them. Some, sometimes, put the pride aside to reveal the truthfulness even if not needed.
C.S. Lewis wrote in a letter "After explaining why domestic responsibilities will prevent him from being present at her confirmation, Lewis confesses: "If I had come and we had met, I am afraid you might have found me very shy and dull. (By the way, always remember that old people can be quite as shy with young people as young people with old. This explains to you what must seem the idiotic way in which so many grown-ups talk to you)."
Sometimes we mask these things with confidence.
Some times we put a smile on our face.
Maybe we avoid totally.
or use mockery as a sword.
many time we lie to ourselves.
But the reverse of truth has a hundred thousand faces and an infinite field." Michel de Montaigne, Essays 1
"We conceal our true nature and to buttress our pride."
We hide our thoughts far better than we hide our Body.
Society attempts to smother the guilt we feel from harboring these feelings by relativising.
Evil seems so attractive to the youth of our age. These things were hideous years ago.
Betsey childs said, "I'm afraid that we are often guilty of associating strength and power with that which is evil. But in reality, innocence needs no defense because it has done nothing wrong. Innocence has no hole in its armor because it has nothing to hide. Innocence has a sort of strength that evil never can claim."
The innocent Lamb can become a Lion.
A horrifying glorious day is coming quickly.
Mark 4:22) For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and
nothing covered will remain without being uncovered.
Up there, I will be seen for who I really am, what I really look like, you will see my true nature, who's maker is the "Word" and His signature is mirrored on me.
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01-08-2006, 10:05 PM #23
These feelings of anxiety are normal to an extent. It is not a matter of masking these feelings, but rather a matter of coping with these feelings. To worry you will not measure up to a standard is a legitimate concern, but whether or not the standard exists in reality or not, is what separates normal from abnormal. To worry your marriage will fail, with out reason to, will surely set the foundation for failure.
01-08-2006, 10:11 PM #24
Its not all necessarily anxiety, that is only 1 example. We hide our true nature. No one doesnt.
01-08-2006, 10:22 PM #25
I think this "mask" is so etched into us as humans, that I really dont think we know what our true nature is.
I dont think we would be able to show our true nature. Our "mask" becomes part of our true nature.
01-08-2006, 10:29 PM #26Originally Posted by boots555
01-09-2006, 02:10 AM #27
Good question causas. Ill go more in depth tomarrow.
01-09-2006, 01:22 PM #28
01-09-2006, 01:26 PM #29
This argument has merit. I think we all "pose" to some extent. you have your work face, social face, family face, etc... the hardest thing a man can do IMO is find peace within himself and be happy in his own skin.
How many of you spend money you don't have on shit you dont need to impress people you don't even like (or know) ?!
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01-10-2006, 11:36 PM #30
Life is easier when you let God be God.......
It's the "freewill" advocates that have all the issues.......
"is my faith strong enough"....etc etc.......
what a fvcking MISERABLE FAITHLESS way to live.......
01-11-2006, 05:17 AM #31Originally Posted by ripped4fsu
01-15-2006, 04:18 PM #32Originally Posted by ripped4fsu
Well said ripped
01-15-2006, 05:28 PM #33
The question is legitimate. Our own measure of what it means to be a man/women is a relative one. Keeping religion out of it and just being the best we can be. What's to be found out? Who cares about what the guy next door is doing (you shouldn't) That's part of the maturing process. I live in a community where the norm is a high end European car. I bought my son a new Mustang for his 17th birthday, (he doesn't have his license yet) and I am loving driving this thing because its fun. Fuuuck my neighbors and their status cars. Do what makes you happy and you will be ashamed of nothing!
01-15-2006, 05:36 PM #34
Man/Woman are different. They seem to be made for each other. I am attracted to women because of physical as well as psychological reasons. The "norm" means nothing to me, my question, "what is the objective role of a man".
01-15-2006, 05:50 PM #35
That's a different question, Boots. It seems to differ from woman to woman. Some would prefer that you assume a leadership role and that you are the "head" of the household and others would prefer that you are an equal partner and run everything by them. It seems to me that you should understand your beliefs and methology and partner with woman compatible with those beliefs. If you are a sort that believes that you are the "master" of your home and partner with a woman who is of the belief that she should be involved in every decision, than you have a conflict. If this is a broader question and religion comes into the picture than I certainly wouldn't be the one to reply. The religious woman and I just don't see eye to eye when it comes to the role of the man. Their values are too literaly tied to the good book and I can not relate.
01-15-2006, 06:02 PM #36
Your problem is not a christian problem. You have a misunderstanding of theology, you forget that man vs. woman are different. Your problem is with the creator rather than with his word. I personally dont believe you understand his word, which leads to your confusion.
I am going bald, should I condemn God for allowing this. May be I have missed the whole point.
Who told you that the point for our existence was nirvanna, it isnt, dont be fooled. Feelings are real, and temporary, they are not meant to be owned or kept for a longated peried of time. These feelings are real, and are there for our pleasure, merely to give us a taste of what is to come.
01-15-2006, 06:19 PM #37
I was waiting for that bro! Christians always have a way of justifying everything with the "Good Book". You have been fooled my brutha. Rather than relying on what you know to be real, you choose to rely on what you don't know. And to what end? In hopes that the after world is a better place? Live your life in the now. Do what you know is the right thing, because it is right, not because you believe that you will be punished in the next world. You are going bald because you genetics dictate this, not because some greater power thought it was good for your character. We are but a specie on this planet, like so many other Species. We have no purpose but to live and die. And when its over, its over. Make the best of it. And while we are at, answer this. Why is there enough religion to incite wars, but not enough religion to instill tolerance
01-15-2006, 06:29 PM #38Originally Posted by Theatrix
You have many presuppositions that are unprovable or false. I am sorry, learn greek, faith is not relying on improbability, or even possibility, it is based on probability, even unquestinablity when you get to the root. Christianity is entirely rational, prove me wrong.
Your subejective opion only holds water if your objective opinion is TRUE. Is your OBJECTIVE opinion true.
01-15-2006, 06:40 PM #39
Boots, I know you are serious, but pardon me if I can't take you seriously. I would have to say that you make presuppositions that are unprovable, therefore what would be the point in the argument. Lets just agree to disagree for the moment and let live. You and I will never be able to resolve this matter. It has been argued too many times by greater thinkers than you or I. Peace
01-15-2006, 06:50 PM #40
We cannot resolve a matter when you have no center point or foundation to attack.
You believe in God, luckily according to your beliefs, He always thinks as if He were you "Man Made". I could go wild on your ideas of God if I had no heart, luckily "I do". LOGIC, RATIONALITY, where have you gone?
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