01-09-2006, 02:49 PM #1
Is there some Muslim holiday today?
01-09-2006, 02:55 PM #2Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
01-09-2006, 02:55 PM #3
Not that I am aware off.
01-09-2006, 03:12 PM #4Originally Posted by AIZ
1. Keep the compliments coming
2. I drove through an Arabic town today and it looked like they had some holiday. The road (one main road) was packed with cars, people walking on the road, some kids playing with fireworks, everyone walking towards the same direction (the direction of where the kids with the fireworks were) and all the shops were open at an hour they're usually closed...So I thought there was some holiday.
01-09-2006, 03:16 PM #5Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
01-09-2006, 03:19 PM #6Originally Posted by Alex2
01-09-2006, 03:23 PM #7Originally Posted by Alex2
01-09-2006, 03:25 PM #8
The story behind Eid ul-Adha
Muslims believe that God revealed in a dream to Ibrahim to sacrifice his son Isma’il. Ibrahim and Isma’il set off to Mina for the sacrifice. As they went, the devil attempted to persuade Ibrahim to disobey God and not to sacrifice his beloved son. But Ibrahim stayed true to God, and drove the devil away. As Ibrahim prepared to sacrifice his son, God stopped him and gave him a sheep to sacrifice instead.
01-09-2006, 03:33 PM #9Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
01-09-2006, 03:38 PM #10Originally Posted by AIZ
It was an Israeli Arab town....Not in the territories.
01-09-2006, 03:43 PM #11Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
You can see why some don't see the difference between the villages in the territories or in Israel proper.
01-09-2006, 03:51 PM #12Originally Posted by AIZ
But I wasn't in Um El Fahem. I was somewhere else, and they're all right. I agree some are radical but they are a minority. I know people in the town I was driving through. They view themselves as Israeli. I can also give you more than a few examples of things I experienced and stories I heard about Israeli Arabs showing love to Israel.
If some feel like they're not Israeli, we only have ourselves to blame for that. We need to invest in them and make them feel a part of our country.
Did you read about the Muslim guy who wants to become an IDF pilot? It was in Yediot last week.
01-09-2006, 11:02 PM #13Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
I do agree that we shoulder a lot of blame and that we should do more for the betterment of their lives. However, I also think that we need to focus on the numerous Ethiopian citizens we have as well. They ARE FAR MORE DISCRIMINATED against. Personally, I would start there.
By the way: nice avatar
01-11-2006, 08:43 PM #14Originally Posted by Rak_Ani
01-11-2006, 08:58 PM #15Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
No, no, no....... It was Issac, not Ishmael.
01-12-2006, 10:04 AM #16Originally Posted by alphaman
01-12-2006, 12:44 PM #17Originally Posted by Alex2
Lots of people get rejected by the world's best airforce. Jews, Christians and Muslims too.
He was sent invitation to volunteer for the paratroopers.
01-12-2006, 01:09 PM #18Originally Posted by alphaman
01-12-2006, 03:50 PM #19Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
And vice versa, C. Think about it...Islam's advent is around 622 or later yet you claim the ancient (yet still practiced) beliefs about Isaac which occurred 2000 years previously are simply false and Islam is right. You can see why the whole "no it wasn't Isaac it was Ishmael" debate is a problem.
01-12-2006, 03:52 PM #20Originally Posted by AIZ
01-12-2006, 04:03 PM #21
Ok, I will answer it. Abraham (PBUH) had two sons.
Ishmael was 13 years older than Isaac. Ishmael was the first born.
In the Bible it says GOD ordered Abraham (PBUH) to sacrifice his only son and in another version his firstborn.
Ishmael was the first born.
And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
GOD asked Abraham (PBUH) to sacrafice his ONLY son. If he had two sons, it could not be "only". The only way it can be "only", is if Abraham (PBUH) had one son. And that would have to be Ishmael.
Yet the Bible puts the name Issac right after. Either thorough corruption or jealously or something.
01-12-2006, 05:09 PM #22Junior Member
Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
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01-13-2006, 02:02 AM #23
Before anyone says Ishmael wasnt a "son".
Here is a verse -
And his sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, which [is] before Mamre;
Clearly there is a big problem in the Bible on this situation.
01-13-2006, 02:06 AM #24
Who doubts Ishamel was not a son of Abraham? We just see things and understand things differently.
01-13-2006, 02:11 AM #25Originally Posted by AIZ
How can we see things differently? I am using Genesis. Which isnt a Muslim book.
01-13-2006, 02:36 AM #26
It's Eids - In the Gulf they seem to celebrate this one more than the one after Ramadan...
01-13-2006, 03:06 AM #27Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
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