01-19-2006, 04:12 PM #1
Vermont, child rapist gets 60 days
What are your thoughts on the guy in Vermont who raped a little girl for 4 years (from age 6 - age 10), and was recently sentenced to 60 days in jail?
01-19-2006, 04:19 PM #2
****ed up. The judge should get removed from his position and a retrial is needed
01-19-2006, 04:22 PM #3
That state spawned Dr. Dean, right? Seems in keeping with the f#$%ed up liberal mindset of tolerance for perpetrators rather than victims.
Even in 60 days, he should get to know what it feels like to be raped. From what I hear, inmates don't particularly like child rapists.
01-19-2006, 04:23 PM #4
I don't think he'll make it long in there. But if they put him in p.c., he'll get his when he gets out.
01-19-2006, 04:24 PM #5
Rapist's Prison Sentence Triggers Outrage
Burlington, Vermont -- January 4, 2005
There was outrage Wednesday when a Vermont judge handed out a 60-day jail sentence to a man who raped a little girl many,many times over a four-year span starting when she was seven.
The judge said he no longer believes in punishment and is more concerned about rehabilitation.
Prosecutors argued that confessed child-rapist Mark Hulett, 34, of Williston deserved at least eight years behind bars for repeatedly raping a littler girl countless times starting when she was seven.
But Judge Edward Cashman disagreed explaining that he no longer believes that punishment works.
"The one message I want to get through is that anger doesn't solve anything. It just corrodes your soul," said Judge Edward Cashman speaking to a packed Burlington courtroom. Most of the on-lookers were related to a young girl who was repeatedly raped by Mark Hulett who was in court to be sentenced.
The sex abuse started when the girl was seven and ended when she was ten. Prosecutors were seeking a sentence of eight to twenty years in prison, in part, as punishment.
"Punishment is a valid purpose," Chittenden Deputy Prosecutor Nicole Andreson argued to Judge Edward Cashman.
"The state recognizes that the court may not agree or subscribe to that method of sentencing but the state does. The state thinks that it is a very important factor for the court to consider," Andreson added.
But Judge Cashman explained that he is more concerned that Hulett receive sex offender treatment as rehabilitation. But under Department of Corrections classification, Hulett is considered a low-risk for re-offense so he does not qualify for in-prison treatment.So the judge sentenced him to just 60 days in prison and then Hulett must complete sex treatment when he gets out or face a possible life sentence.
Judge Cashman also also revealed that he once handed down stiff sentences when he first got on the bench 25 years ago, but he no longer believes in punishment.
"I discovered it accomplishes nothing of value;it doesn't make anything better;it costs us a lot of money; we create a lot of expectation, and we feed on anger,"Cashman explained to the people in the court.
The sentence outraged the victim's family who asked not to be identified.
"I don't like it," the victim's mother,in tears, told Channel 3. "He should pay for what he did to my baby and stop it here. She's not even home with me and he can be home for all this time, and do what he did in my house," she added.
Hulett -- who had been out on bail-- was taken away to start his sentence immediately.
Maybe a couple of weeks in a lock down a large guy who hasn't seen a woman in many many years, he would understand the position that man put that little girl in.
01-19-2006, 04:39 PM #6
The judge no longer believes in punishment? What kind of ass-hat dimwit is this guy and how did he get to the bench? WTF? What does that mean: he no longer believes in punishment? Vermont?!?!
01-19-2006, 04:44 PM #7
Wow, a US state that is more Liberal than kanada!!!!!!!!!
oh wait, Vermont is like an american canadian
01-19-2006, 04:47 PM #8Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
It must get into the brain and freeze the rational parts.....
01-19-2006, 04:50 PM #9
They should investigate the judge...sounds like he is a pedophile as well...
01-19-2006, 05:06 PM #10
He probably is a pedophile. Just how can a man rape a baby??? The other night on TV they did a show about guys that search for young girls & boys via the internet. It was an undercover sting. The guys thought they were chatting with a 12 year old boy or girl. Amazing thing is they showed up at her house, one guy was a Rabi, one was an emergency room doctor. You should have seen their faces when,when they brought their camera's out . These men should be put away.
Not to be sexist, the women that seduce young teens aren't much better but they get less punishment.
01-19-2006, 06:27 PM #11Associate Member
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Thats unbelievable the way the judghe acted. Think this guy wil be given a new identity and relocated after hes released? becuase that girls family might come looking for him in 60 days......
01-19-2006, 07:01 PM #12Originally Posted by transform
01-19-2006, 07:22 PM #13New Member
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Yeah, this judge is an idiot and needs to be removed.
Anybody hear about a judge in Massachusettes that let a male teacher walk with no jail time after admitting to raping a 15 year old male student?
Is this America or have I woken up in another country?
01-19-2006, 08:43 PM #14
rights and rights!
these same so called rights that give everyone freedom to do what they want, either free speech to blowing a schoolbus up, give them a fair treatment,
these human rights is the worst weakness the western world has, and they are exploited.
terrorist with rights
criminals with more rights than policemen
petty criminals get 10 years for selling a vial of test
cocaine, heroine dealer gets a slap on the hand
01-19-2006, 10:07 PM #15
What are the facts of the case?
01-20-2006, 12:08 AM #16
I haven't really heard anything about this, but I'm living in Germany now and I don't watch the news so...
As messed up as it sounds, the judge is actually right. A prison sentence as punishment doesn't solve much, if anything. Chemical castration reduces recidivism to around 5% some studies say. Isn't this what we are trying to make happen? Reduction of repeat offenders rather than just making these criminals spend time in jail?
Studies show different base rates for different types of sex offenses. For example, child molesters have a higher rate of rearrest than rapists (52% versus 39 percent when tracked over 25 years).
01-20-2006, 01:33 AM #17
it has been shown time and time again that child molesters don't rehabilitate. they are just like serial killers, they will do it forever until they are put in prison or dead.
01-20-2006, 02:18 AM #18Originally Posted by J.S.N.
01-20-2006, 07:52 AM #19
But they didnt castrate him...so the longest time in jail was the best thing...
01-20-2006, 10:51 AM #20
Yeah he prolly went to county, even still, the inmates will prolly give him as much justice as they can fit in 60 days.
01-20-2006, 10:57 AM #21
chemical casteration for the rapist, and the judge..The answer to your every question
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01-20-2006, 11:29 AM #22Originally Posted by scriptfactory
01-20-2006, 12:52 PM #23
punishmentOriginally Posted by scriptfactory
01-20-2006, 12:58 PM #24Originally Posted by Logan13
01-20-2006, 01:11 PM #25
violent crimeOriginally Posted by scriptfactory
01-20-2006, 01:14 PM #26
Maybe Darwin was right in the respect that we should eliminate people with traits like this...sterilize one at a time BABY!...
01-20-2006, 01:17 PM #27
factsOriginally Posted by Tock
01-20-2006, 01:41 PM #28
That is pretty sad, I would put them in jail for life.
That is the problem, if laws are too lenient, people will do the crimes over and over again.
If you give severe punishments for crimes like these, these types of crimes will lessen.
01-20-2006, 01:46 PM #29
social valuesOriginally Posted by CAUSASIAN
01-20-2006, 01:50 PM #30
Is there a change in this? Or is it still 60 days?
Someone has to be missing here, I dont see how that low of a time period as a punishment is possible?
01-20-2006, 01:54 PM #31
vermontOriginally Posted by CAUSASIAN
No, still stands and few in Vermont gov't are doing anything about it. O'reilly is all over it, taking an online vote to boycott Vermont. Some on the left are applauding it, I just want to know where the ACLU is on this one. That little girls rights have been trampled on. They fight for the criminals, not the victims I guess.
01-20-2006, 11:09 PM #32Originally Posted by Logan13
No, I hadn't heard about this. The news story said,
"Judge Cashman also also revealed that he once handed down stiff sentences when he first got on the bench 25 years ago, but he no longer believes in punishment.
"I discovered it accomplishes nothing of value;it doesn't make anything better;it costs us a lot of money; we create a lot of expectation, and we feed on anger,"Cashman explained to the people in the court."
On the one hand, I agree that punishment won't do much of anything for either the victim or the offender. But on the other hand, stiff sentences for things like this certainly will give other guys with similar inclinations a good reason to think twice about committing this sort of crime. So, ya, I'm in favor of harsh sentences for this kind of stuff. If I was the judge, I'd have given him a tougher sentence.
01-20-2006, 11:13 PM #33
Regardless of the practicality of the sentence...I dont see how he could untie himself emotionally from this crime...
And what a time...this is a little girl...What are the parents suppost to say in 60 days when she asks if shes safe?
01-20-2006, 11:23 PM #34Originally Posted by Logan13
IMHO, the ACLU stands up for the Bill of Rights, and sometimes they stand up for unpopular people in the process. Like standing against laws that require public school students to recite prayers to Jesus, or laws that make those who don't publicly pray seem like outcasts and social pariahs. Or standing against government policies that prevent unpopular people from exercising their right to assemble in public (like when they filed a lawsuit for the American Nazi Party when Skokie, Illinois, refused to grant them a parade permit). Or when they file lawsuits defending your right to freely post your thoughts, without government censorship, on the internet.
Ya, I'm a big fan of the US Constitution, the rights it gives to US citizens, and to any organization that defends those rights. IMHO, the best of those organizations is the ACLU.
01-20-2006, 11:30 PM #35Originally Posted by Logan13
Ya, a few weeks ago, he was all over the Plano (Texas) school district, ragging on them for allegedly banning schoolkids from wearing red or green because they were christmas colors. It took a while for O'Reilly to back down and apologize for his gross mistake (and libel), and when he did, it was short and sweet -- nothing that came close to matching the vigor with which he denounced the school district . . .
Yep, O'Reilly is nothing more than a bloated windbag trying to get ratings . . . dunno why otherwise intelligent people would bother with him . . .
01-21-2006, 02:34 AM #36Retired Vet
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A child was raped, do you need anything else before hanging the fvcking rapist?.
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lucky the fvcker doesnt live where I live. He would be hanging on the end of a rope within a week of conviction.
01-21-2006, 03:28 AM #38
judge in jail, rapist in general population so he gets the brunt of it (i.e. general pop. usually fvcks those peeps up)
01-21-2006, 09:22 AM #39Originally Posted by BlueAndromeda73
01-21-2006, 09:28 AM #40
If and when he gets, who really
thinks his chances are any good.
He would be hunted down.
I believe the sentence will change
before the 60 days expire.
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