crazy DB bench

**brock125** · 08-01-2005, 08:31 PM

I was reading an article on Mike Dragna and he said he trains at a gym with 300 lb dumbells and some giant samoans were lifting them. I think thats just sick but guys like Gene Rychlak who are benching 1,005 must be pressing 300's I would think. I know they just focus mainly on bar bench but i'm curious whta they handle with dumbells. Anybody know?

**chest6** · 08-02-2005, 01:20 AM

man..well i saw that video of Coleman doing 200lbs 12 times pretty easily...but thats bodybuilding

***Doc.Sust*** · 08-02-2005, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by brock125

I was reading an article on Mike Dragna and he said he trains at a gym with 300 lb dumbells and some giant samoans were lifting them. I think thats just sick but guys like Gene Rychlak who are benching 1,005 must be pressing 300's I would think. I know they just focus mainly on bar bench but i'm curious whta they handle with dumbells. Anybody know?

they don't use dumbells! they don't work on there lower end strength(like dumbell presses) theywork on upper end strength.(lock outs,board presses)there bench shirts do all the work off there chest, there is no need for dumbells. i just worked out with a major name presser( don't want to mention names) but the man has over an 800 press . the gym where he works out only has up to 50lb dumbells by his choice. so if that tells you anything. if someone really wanted to try to work a similar motion, but didn't have the dumbells that heavy, the may use a camel bar, but as far as i am concerned, i think it is a waste especially for a competiton presser like gene rychlak. after 100lbs, the dumbells become to big and to hard to handle for most people, and even if you can handle the weight, the set up is to akward, and it just poses so many possible injuries to happen, it isn't worth it, not for a powerlifter.

**chest6** · 08-02-2005, 07:15 PM

will it hinder strength gains if you use dumbells...i use them routinely along with my normal worrk

**znak** · 08-03-2005, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by chest6

will it hinder strength gains if you use dumbells...i use them routinely along with my normal worrk

Could you translate this?

**Squatman51** · 08-03-2005, 06:31 AM

do they even make 300lb DB's

**Squatman51** · 08-03-2005, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by chest6

will it hinder strength gains if you use dumbells...i use them routinely along with my normal worrk

doubt it

**Squatman51** · 08-03-2005, 06:33 AM

some people that do westside do DB presses on a ball

**Squatman51** · 08-03-2005, 06:33 AM

all i have to say is those balls better be heavy duty or.....pop

***Doc.Sust*** · 08-03-2005, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Squatman51

some people that do westside do DB presses on a ball

some of the west side methods are not the safest or most efficent exercises like zercher squats and seated/kneeling squats, etc etc..there are quite a few things that west side does that are not that great or smart.

**BiggerNstronger** · 08-13-2005, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

some of the west side methods are not the safest or most efficent exercises like zercher squats and seated/kneeling squats, etc etc..there are quite a few things that west side does that are not that great or smart.

Generally speaking, dumbbells are more for bodybuilding than for powerlifting. Im not saying they CANT help but the heavier you go the more dangerous the dumbbells become. My gym only has 140's anyways so to go real heavy you go with barbells. Im about to start doing more board presses to help with my lockouts.

***Doc.Sust*** · 08-15-2005, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by BiggerNstronger

Generally speaking, dumbbells are more for bodybuilding than for powerlifting. Im not saying they CANT help but the heavier you go the more dangerous the dumbbells become. My gym only has 140's anyways so to go real heavy you go with barbells. Im about to start doing more board presses to help with my lockouts.

board presses rock!!!! dont forget rack lockouts or floor presses.

**Lurch** · 08-15-2005, 12:32 PM

Any exercise can be dangerous if not done properly... DB presses are good for low end work. People say shirts do all the work at the bottom of a bench. If that was true you would never see a person get pinned by a bar.

**Papi93** · 12-30-2005, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Squatman51

some people that do westside do DB presses on a ball

They use the db bench press on a Swiss Ball as part of their recovery workouts.

**Papi93** · 12-30-2005, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Squatman51

all i have to say is those balls better be heavy duty or.....pop

I used to be a personal trainer. I've seen a guy use a 225lb bench press on a special Swiss Ball. Some are designed to hold a massive amount of weight.

**Papi93** · 12-30-2005, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Doc.Sust

some of the west side methods are not the safest or most efficent exercises like zercher squats and seated/kneeling squats, etc etc..there are quite a few things that west side does that are not that great or smart.

IMO, a Zercher Squat is safer than a Good Morning. Not that a Good Morning is not a safe exercise if executed properly, it's just there isn't as much margin for error as their is with the Zercher Squat.