Thread: Periodized and Overload training
01-19-2004, 06:00 PM #1
Periodized and Overload training
It has been my personal experience that periodized training and progressive overload training are a complete waste of time. Periodized training, while it may appear to be a good idea, gives the muscles enough time to rest but lacks a certain inensity. Progressive overload training fatigues the muscles but the nervous system becomes unresponsive to any change after several weeks. However, a combination of (blood) volume training and plyometrics seem to yield the best results. I would further encourage others reading this to invest in a good set of Rubber bands and chains for further speed training. Let us not forget that powerlifting follows the same laws of physics that the rest of the universe follows. The idea is that F=MA. The more bar speed one can generate, the more he/she will be able to lift. Do not worry about how much body weight you gain as there is a direct correlation between muscle size/density and the training load that muscle can handle. Above all, always remember that powerlifting is nothing but physics and biomechanics.
01-24-2004, 05:55 PM #2Originally Posted by kdawg21
Periodization doesn't have to lack intensity, the beauty of periodization is the ability to alter intensity via a variety of loading parameters. I agree in that progressive overload is only possible to a certain extent within a given set of training variables, but I have found that by using a periodized approach I can get past the limitations of the CNS. For example, periods of high volume at a lower RM% followed by periods of low volume at a higher RM%. Any change in 1RM may not be evident for several weeks/months but I have found that the progress does come.
I like your approach of volume training/plyometrics though, I find that too many people spend hours in the gym strictly for vanity and don't progress their actual athletic potential. I also set goals based on training loads rather than sheer muscle size, I also feel it's a much better indicator of progress and just a more practical way of setting goals. Good post.
01-25-2004, 03:06 PM #3
Perhaps I was a little hasty in judging the effects of periodized training. Many Eastern European lifters were using it before the creation of modern anabolics. However, the point of periodization training was to keep the body in a constant state of growth without "overtraining," by gradaully increasing the load and intensity. The point is to approach your training limit but never exceed it. Studies have shown that overtraining leads to an increase in the amount of cortisol released by the adrenal glands, cortisol inhibits muscle growth and forces the body into a catabolic state. However, with the proper use of modern medicine, on can supress the cortisol prouction which will allow one to constantly push his/her body to the limit. While the premise of periodized training is a good one, and it has produced results, I fail to understand its use in an "enhanced" athlete. I gladly welcome any rebuttals or counterpoints. It is not my intention to squabble, I simply endeavor to gain a better understanding of proper training techniques and ideas.
01-25-2004, 03:48 PM #4Originally Posted by kdawg21
01-29-2004, 11:34 PM #5
Progressive overload works for me if I keep volume low.
01-29-2004, 11:45 PM #6
Periodization is an awesome method if you ask me. The cycles and phases give your body the much need rest and variety that will help stimulate growth and strength. I'm not a power lifter, but I've heard the phrase "2 steps forward, 1 step back". I haven't personally done periodization training, but I'm very familiar with it. With little altercations here and there, I'm sure we could come up with something that would be an offshoot of Periodization training that would be more effective. Anyone up for it? I am.
01-30-2004, 12:51 AM #7
02-20-2004, 04:12 PM #8
Ronny - nice link
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