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    My Favorite Post-workout Drink(s)

    My new favorite post-workout drinks are these
    #1
    -Good sized scoop creamy Peanut Butter
    -8 to 10 Ice Cubes
    -10 grams creatine monohydrate HDT Brand
    -10 grams Glutamine peptide
    - 9 grams Optimum Glutamine
    - 2 scoops Optimum Chocolate Whey
    - 2 scoops Pro-Rated Vanilla Whey
    - 2 cups Skim milk
    - blend until mixed
    (makes 2 servings, I split it with my wife)

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    -80 grams (5 scoops) Orange or Riptide Rush Gatorade powder
    - 8 to 10 Ice Cubes
    -10 grams creatine monohydrate HDT Brand
    -10 grams Glutamine peptide
    - 9 grams Optimum Glutamine
    - 2 scoops Pro-Rated Vanilla Whey
    - 2 cups water
    - blend until mixed

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    I would drop the milk and PB in the first one, that is really slowing down the process of getting the nutrients into your muscles. #2 looks pretty damn good though.

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    Can't mix creatine and whey in the same drink.

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    Originally posted by saboudian
    Can't mix <a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=CREATINE" target="_blank">creatine</a> and whey in the same drink.


    Why?

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    I drink a similar shake as #2 there. I use two scoops of GNC choc whey protein (40g protein) with powdered lemon/lime gatorade (amount varies depending on bodypart and intensity of training). I know that it sounds godawful, but it's really not bad at all. Kinda tastes minty and chocolatey.

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    I thought that the milk was good for two reasons. First, it has
    lactose, which is a sugar, probably not as good as dextrose. Second,
    I read in here the other day that dairy causes an insulin surge, which
    I thought was the whole point of the post workout carbs. Why would
    the Peanut Butter slow absorption? Thanks all.

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    Milk does cause an insulin surge but what good is all that insulin if all the nutrients are still being processed by the stomach! PB slows because all fat has an effect on stomach emptying, it slows it. Just the nature of fats, also most PB have fiber which slows things a bit too.

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    Originally posted by saboudian
    Can't mix <a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=CREATINE" target="_blank">creatine</a> and whey in the same drink.

    Yes !! Please show some documentation on this statement. I would be interested in reading why this is not feasable

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    So would it be okay if I dropped the Peanut Butter?

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    Originally posted by mfenske
    So would it be okay if I dropped the Peanut Butter?
    Ya darn skippy it would be

    ** don't mix your carbs with fats**--just my .02

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    My post workout drink
    10 oz. skim milk
    1 banana
    8 oz. yogurt
    1 table spoon of natural peanutbutter
    3 tablespoons of flaxseed oil
    5 g creatin
    1 scoop of glutamine
    1 scoop of whey protein
    and i usually add MSM and some colostrum..
    i find it taste pretty good ......i like it

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    I´ve heard it to that you shouldn´t mix protein and creatine together... but why???? ANYONE?
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    So why is skim milk any worse than Gatorade mix...that stuff is just a Pixie Stick in a bag!

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    Skim milk will slow absorbtion of protein, Gatorade won't.

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    You can't mix creatine with milk, not whey, coz it gets turned to creatinine - a useles compound you just piss away!

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    Exclamation creatine

    not true about milk. the creatine only breaks down to creatinine after a period of time, not instantly. it does the same thing in water, or gatorade, or anything else. i do not see any reason why it would break down faster in milk, as when creatine is dissolved in a glycerin containing compound it is more biologically available.

    just dont let it sit in the milk for more than 5-10 mins, i wouldn't let it do that in any liquid IMO!

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    Post conversion

    the conversion is more dependant on the pH of the solvent your adding the creatine to, then what the solvent is. if the pH is around nuetral, it breaks down no faster than it would in water. Here is a simple table to use as a creatinine conversion guideline once activated!

    CREATININE CONVERSION TEST RESULTS
    IR Batch#182839

    Creatine in water
    pH 7
    15sec:10% 30sec:20% 1min:30% 2min:40% 3min:50%
    8.4Minutes for total conversion

    Creatine in fruit juice
    pH 3
    15sec:50% 30sec:90% 1min:100%
    43Seconds for total conversion

    Creatine fruit flavored drink mixes
    pH 3
    50% 90% 100% 100% 100%
    43seconds for conversion

    Creatine in protein mixes
    pH 7
    15sec:10% 30sec:20% 1min:30% 2min:40% 3min:50%
    8.4 Minutes for conversion

    Creatine in sports drinks
    pH 3
    15sec:50% 30sec:90% 1min:100%
    43seconds for conversion

    Liquid creatine
    & "serums"
    pH 4
    15sec:30% 30sec:40% 1min:50% 2min:70%
    2.8 Minutes for conversion

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    Didn't know that! So you can mix creatine in a whey shake with milk?You just have to drink it fast?

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    right

    drink it quick. creatine breaks down faster in low pH juices like fruit punch than it does in milk with whey. your fine, just dont let it sit on the counter while you stare at it!

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