Thread: Quitting var cycle at 3 weeks
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10-29-2005, 12:11 PM #1New Member
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Quitting var cycle at 3 weeks
I started a var cycle exactly 3 weeks ago and I stopped dosing yesterday (25 hours ago)...waiting on some PCT supplies this week (nolva+clomid). I had intended to go 7 weeks.
I know its weird to quit but I was just thinking things over and these things aren't for me. I'm turning 20 next week, so I'm a bit too young to start with this shit and I'm getting depressed and anxious on it (screws my diet + rest)...my training has gone through the roof oddly enough. Also, I figure I can make decent gains naturally, I'm positive I didn't hit a ceiling but I don't see myself doing gear in the future. It's not for everyone. I initially planned to use it for growth plate stimulation (I'm 5'7). So far while on, I went from 170 at 9-11% to 183 at 12-14%. I don't look too different according to myself or others but strength went through the roof.
I was wondering to what degree I'm supressed and how I should run my PCT. I am positive my nuts shrank while on cycle (smaller/softer), but I can still jerk off like twice a day lol (this is the first day 'off'). My sex drive did go down while on it though, and this is the second depression/anxious spell I got while on it...the first time I dosed I got flulike symptoms. My nipples will feel sore if I think about them but I think it's all psychological (I'm getting paranoid about gyno even though var doesn't aromatize). Other than that no other issues.
Any advice on this one?
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10-29-2005, 12:23 PM #2
The depression could be explained by the lack of testosterone .
For PCT:
2-3 weeks of clomid/nolva should do it.
If it does not "do it" then continue with PCT of course.
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10-29-2005, 12:25 PM #3
good for you, most cant say they can just up and quit because they felt it wasnt for them. I got total respect for ya bro. As for permanent growth plate problems, i doubt it. Var is mild, and if you were only on for 3 weeks, and you wasnt takin an insane dose, u should be fine. Just keep with the pct.
alo
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10-29-2005, 12:34 PM #4New Member
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So 50 mg clomid ED and 20 mg nolva ED? Can I expect crazy sides from either at those doses?
Oh the depression occured while on...depression/anxiety, but today I don't have any of that stuff...maybe slight depression from the backlash but I can deal with it. I hope I didn't cause anything permanent. I'm waiting for the PCT supplies in a few days.
Thanks guys.
Yeah...I'm just working on health from now on, I don't think shoving down a 17AA would help much. I won't touch gear unless I'm starting to go down hill in 'andropause ' lol. I think I should produce enough testosterone on my own now. Oh I used var in hopes to grow in height, since you have anabolic stimulation without any estrogenic shut down.
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10-29-2005, 01:00 PM #5New Member
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention i was using 50 mg ED of var
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10-29-2005, 01:06 PM #6Associate Member
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i seem to remember hearing somewhere that var was prescribed to pubescent boys, so growth plates wouldn't be an issue. i think it's estro that closes them anyway.
slightly off-topic, but isn't var supposed to make your penis grow if you take it as a teenager? lol
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10-29-2005, 01:09 PM #7
--^^ Yes, it speeds up puberty in prepubescent boys and girls.
I'm glad to hear you're holding off, I'm holding off as well till 23, I'm 21 right now and felt that the cycles I did weren't worth it (at least until I'm older.)
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10-29-2005, 01:09 PM #8Originally Posted by macgyver_48
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10-29-2005, 01:11 PM #9New Member
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I think my penis was unaffected lol, but my nuts did shrink.
They use it in kids because its one of the only steroids that won't interact with the aromatase enzyme to convert to estrogen - so no estrogenic sides or premature epiphyseal closure. It grew teenagers cocks because they were due to grow anyway, it just accelerates it. They'll get pubic hair if they didn't have any already. Although we're talking 12-14 here. Var has shown in some studies to cause the kids to grow more than their projected/predicted height but of course, that's random and unpredictable...I think they fit people's height into statistically modeled curves using growth velocity.
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10-29-2005, 01:13 PM #10New Member
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Hmm so will nolvadex or clomid have effects on my growth plates? It's not much of an issue anymore. I'm worried about clomid side effects. I'll be running 50 mg ED for two weeks with 20 mg nolva ED for 2 weeks. I'm wondering if those clomid horror stories are just due to people having low test after being suppressed hard or if clomid actually screws you up big time.
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10-29-2005, 01:15 PM #11Originally Posted by macgyver_48
alo
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10-29-2005, 01:16 PM #12Originally Posted by Jay85
Clomid does have side effects ranging from person to person. If its deppression your concerned about, some user's have found it easier to take Clomid just before bed.
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10-29-2005, 01:16 PM #13
can i have the rest of your var?
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10-29-2005, 01:17 PM #14Originally Posted by Jay85
alo
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10-29-2005, 01:17 PM #15Originally Posted by GearAholic
Need it for reserach perposes dont you....
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10-29-2005, 01:23 PM #16Originally Posted by Swifto
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10-29-2005, 01:35 PM #17Associate Member
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Originally Posted by GearAholic
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10-29-2005, 01:39 PM #18
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10-29-2005, 01:40 PM #19New Member
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LOL I knew someone would ask that .
As for clomid horror stories - its an emotional clusterf**k, depression/anxious (basically what I have now), irritability, face/back becomes a pizza, vision tracers.
Nolva I never heard many side effects for, it'll help with getting the HDLs back up
Yeah I guess I'll take em at night. Hopefully my balls grow back and everything returns to the way they have before I started lol.
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10-29-2005, 02:27 PM #20Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Jay85
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10-29-2005, 02:57 PM #21New Member
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Nahhhh I think I've probably fused already man. Ahh well...I'll live, in life you win some you lose some.
Ugh, I just woke up from a nap anxious, I wonder when the hell this will go away.
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10-29-2005, 03:02 PM #22New Member
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Should I keep off cold turkey or go on 25 mg ED until PCT supplies arrive?
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10-30-2005, 12:28 AM #23
I would...it will help you keep your gains.
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