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    Test Prop. cycle advice

    i have:

    4 vials of test p; 10ml 100mg/ml
    Arimidex : 20 tabs (1 mg/tab)
    Clomid: 30 tabs (50mg/tab)
    Nolvadex : 30 tabs (20 mg/tab)
    Clen : 200 tabs (40 mcg/tab) ?(dont know if i should use)?


    Ok so im planning on doing:
    -100mg of test p. eod for about 10 weeks (until i finish the 4 vials)
    -.25mg of arimidex eod until pct

    PCT:

    Clomid: 50/50/50/50
    Nolvadex: 20/20/20/20


    My questions are:

    -Should i even bother with running the clen during my cycle or during my pct?

    -Is my PCT good enough for this mild cycle? Iv heard from some people not to run both nolvadex and clomid at the same time..is that true?

    -If i have some arimidex left over should i keep running it through out pct?


    Thanks

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    What is your goal of this cycle?
    You might wanna think about shooting the prop ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybigguns View Post
    What is your goal of this cycle?
    You might wanna think about shooting the prop ed.
    well i want to gain some quality muscle..i know im going to lean out a lot from the test which is why i dont think im going to run clen ...I want to get bigger and more cut..strength would be nice but not on the top of my list, but i know i will gain some from this cycle...my number one concern is keeping my gains...my diet is very clean btw..and my stats are

    age:21
    Weight: about 200
    bf%: 13

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    I think a few guys will say your are on the young side to consider using still.
    When I ran clen I noticed it effecting my strength some.

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    im turning 22 in a month, which is when im planing to run the cycle..what would be the benefit of shooting prop ed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laduem88 View Post
    im turning 22 in a month, which is when im planing to run the cycle..what would be the benefit of shooting prop ed?
    Keeps blood levels more stable and less sides. It keeps better with props half-life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10nispro View Post
    Keeps blood levels more stable and less sides. It keeps better with props half-life.
    so do 50mg ed

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    I think that would be good for a first cycle and you should have nice gains.

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    ok thanks..is my pct good enough? also what are the opinions about doing clen while on my test p cycle.. im open to any input

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    If your diet is in check I wouldn't use it. It does have a tendency to eat up muscle if it doesn't have anything thing else to feed on. Pct should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10nispro View Post
    If your diet is in check I wouldn't use it. It does have a tendency to eat up muscle if it doesn't have anything thing else to feed on. Pct should be fine.
    cool yea il just use the clen some other time...if i have some arimidex left over after the cycle should i just use it up though my pct? you said my pct should be fine..is there anything i can do to make it great or is it?

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    I hate pinning every day and only do so if I need to. Do you really think you need the arimidex at all? This is a mild cycle. Your pct is cool. Take 'em both like you have laid out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10nispro View Post
    If your diet is in check I wouldn't use it. It does have a tendency to eat up muscle if it doesn't have anything thing else to feed on. Pct should be fine.
    maybe you're thinking of t3 but clen is anti-catabolic

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    I hate pinning every day and only do so if I need to. Do you really think you need the arimidex at all? This is a mild cycle. Your pct is cool. Take 'em both like you have laid out.
    cool thanks..as far as the arimidex i want to use it because id rather to be safe than sorry...is there a disadvantage of using it?...more input is more than welcome


    thanks

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    don't use it unless you see gyno starting. estrogen is good for gaining muscle, arimidex made me feel horrible, got itchy too. the stuff is in my nightmares...

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    Revised Plan

    4 vials of test p; 10ml 100mg/ml
    Clomid: 30 tabs (50mg/tab)
    Nolvadex : 30 tabs (20 mg/tab)


    Ok so im planning on doing:
    -50mg of test p. ed for about 10 weeks (until i finish the 4 vials)
    -when gyno symptoms appear ill use 20mg of nolvadex ed till the symptoms go away

    PCT:

    Clomid: 100/50/50 followed by Nolva:20/20/20

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    Quote Originally Posted by laduem88 View Post
    4 vials of test p; 10ml 100mg/ml
    Clomid: 30 tabs (50mg/tab)
    Nolvadex : 30 tabs (20 mg/tab)


    Ok so im planning on doing:
    -50mg of test p. ed for about 10 weeks (until i finish the 4 vials)
    -when gyno symptoms appear ill use 20mg of nolvadex ed till the symptoms go away

    PCT:

    Clomid: 100/50/50 followed by Nolva:20/20/20
    Looks good, but what about your diet>?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indymuscleguy View Post
    Looks good, but what about your diet>?
    im going to have 6 or 7 meals...dont know exact timings because i still have to look at my class schedule but im going to get about 400g of quality protein 300g of carbs and 50-60 g of fat

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