Arimidex always a must during test cycle?

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

Alright guys, I'm a bit confused here. I read a thread that says to use tamoxifen if gyno symptoms appear. Is that different that estrogen related side effects? What is the purpose of arimidex during a test cycle, to combat gyno and water retention? Should I run Arimidex from day one of my cycle and does it hinder gains? Thank you.

[wakejunkie37]

You should alsways run a AI when on Cycle. Lots of guys like Arimidex .

[HawaiianPride.]

A low dose of Exemestane during most cycles would be a wise move to prevent ERSE's.

[Matt]

Ive never had any issues when running test at between 250mgs and 750mgs ew. Its when i add tren /deca or other compounds to my cycle when i see signs of gyno, i therefore run nolva at 10mgs ed and it works well for me.. If is was running test by itself and was worried about ERSE's then get some l-dex or stan and keep it on hand, infact before starting any cycle you should have an ai on hand...

[boundup]

When I start my next cycle, it is something that I am going to run from day one. I wasn't sure to what degree I was carrying water, but people have mentioned my face looks a lot slimmer. Looking at the pics now, well, they were right.

[bodybuilder]

From what i have read it is probably best to just have some armidex on hand and only use if signs of gyno appear. On a test only cycle.

[HawaiianPride.]

Dex is shit compared to Exemestane. If you are looking for prevention, stick with Exe.

[boundup]

Dex is shit compared to Exemestane. If you are looking for prevention, stick with Exe.

Hmm... how does the dose compare to dex? Say for a 75ed prop cycle for six weeks?

[HawaiianPride.]

10mg EOD for prevention. No rebound due to it being a SI, raises ig-f and improves your lipid profile.

[Far from massive]

I just ordered some liquidex (anastrozole). I am on a tren /tne cycle and due to having had elevated liver enzymes in the past, could not consider using Nolvadex , or a lot of the other ERSE drugs due to thier heavy liver toxicity. I hope that anastrozole is effective in combating any sides, so far ( I am 13 days in) other than the sweaty sleep and constant dreams which I actually don't mind the only side is I think I am starting to see some bloating around the midsection after the daily TNE injection? does this make sense or is this more likely in my head?


Damn this sucks, after I got done typing and posted I saw the three posts above, unfortunately Extremestane is not an option either due to its liver damaging potential.

[boundup]

10mg EOD for prevention. No rebound due to it being a SI, raises ig-f and improves your lipid profile.

Thanks - I will have to look into this.

[BOBfromfightclub]

So AI on cycle, Nolvadex if signs of gyno...

Correct?

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

Ive never had any issues when running test at between 250mgs and 750mgs ew. Its when i add tren/deca or other compounds to my cycle when i see signs of gyno, i therefore run nolva at 10mgs ed and it works well for me.. If is was running test by itself and was worried about ERSE's then get some l-dex or stan and keep it on hand, infact before starting any cycle you should have an ai on hand...

Thinking about running Var with my Test P cycle. If Test P at 400 mg per week doesn't cause me gyno, do you think adding Var would bring on the gyno?

[PistolStarta]

So AI on cycle, Nolvadex if signs of gyno...

Correct?

Correct but if your using an AI correctly gyno should be highly improbable.

[Brewster]

Ummmmmm.... Going to have to disagree with almost everyone here

1. I would run the test on its own and not use adex or exe.
2. Have it on hand and if you start to notice sides then use exe.

It seems like its your first cycle.
Myself and many others I know have always just run Test on its own and been perfectly fine(with a correct pct of course)

When doing more then one compound ex. test and deca or test and tren etc. then I would use an AI off the bat.

anyways im new here but I have always firmly believed in not running AI unless you need it. If this is your first cycle then you probly don't know.

[PistolStarta]

Ummmmmm.... Going to have to disagree with almost everyone here

1. I would run the test on its own and not use adex or exe.
2. Have it on hand and if you start to notice sides then use exe.

It seems like its your first cycle.
Myself and many others I know have always just run Test on its own and been perfectly fine(with a correct pct of course)

When doing more then one compound ex. test and deca or test and tren etc. then I would use an AI off the bat.

anyways im new here but I have always firmly believed in not running AI unless you need it. If this is your first cycle then you probly don't know.

No most people do agree its not necessary because some people will not need it. But, many guys want to be more safe than sorry and no problem with that. I agree with you.

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

Ummmmmm.... Going to have to disagree with almost everyone here

1. I would run the test on its own and not use adex or exe.
2. Have it on hand and if you start to notice sides then use exe.

It seems like its your first cycle.
Myself and many others I know have always just run Test on its own and been perfectly fine(with a correct pct of course)

When doing more then one compound ex. test and deca or test and tren etc. then I would use an AI off the bat.

anyways im new here but I have always firmly believed in not running AI unless you need it. If this is your first cycle then you probly don't know.

What about a Test and Var cycle? AI off the bat?

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

No rebound due to it being a SI, raises ig-f and improves your lipid profile.

What do you mean by "no rebound"? Thanks.

[warchild]

Dex is shit compared to Exemestane. If you are looking for prevention, stick with Exe.

does it help with bloating also? my face def turns into a moon on cycle

[Brewster]

Personally I would not.
But thats me...
I would run Liv 52 throughout the cycle though.

Have you run a cycle before?
Do you know how your body is going to react?

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

Personally I would not.
But thats me...
I would run Liv 52 throughout the cycle though.

Have you run a cycle before?
Do you know how your body is going to react?

No cycle experience. Starting a Test Prop / Var cycle in a couple of weeks though. The cycle has been looked at by others here, but I am still trying to determine the best route to go on AI. I figured no AI off the bat with Test and Var, because Var is a mild steroid .

[Sicko]

adding Var will have no affect on whether or not you develop gyno as it does not arromatize

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

adding Var will have no affect on whether or not you develop gyno as it does not arromatize

Perfect. Thanks.

So here's what I'm gonna do... 400 mg Test Prop EW / 75 mg Var ED. No AI until gyno seen. If Gyno seen, Extremestane...

[Brewster]

Perfect. Thanks.

So here's what I'm gonna do... 400 mg Test Prop EW / 75 mg Var ED. No AI until gyno seen. If Gyno seen, Extremestane...

I like that plan

[HawaiianPride.]

does it help with bloating also? my face def turns into a moon on cycle

It assists with bloat in addition with plenty of water and monitoring your sodium intake.

[warchild]

It assists with bloat in addition with plenty of water and monitoring your sodium intake.

thnx HP, hey is that you in your ava? hehheee

[HawaiianPride.]

Of course.... silly question

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

Dex is shit compared to Exemestane. If you are looking for prevention, stick with Exe.

Is the Stane at www,Ar-r .com pharma grade stuff and do I need a script for it? Quality wise, how does their liquid Stane compare to taking a pharma grade anastrozole tab? Thanks.

[HawaiianPride.]

I've never purchased anything from Ar-r but judging from the reviews here that place sells some quality stuff. I would say their products work just as well as PG.

And no you don't need a script.

[gypsy]

Running my first test cycle and started to experience gyno symptoms so run arimidex .25 eod and worked great for me.

[powerws]

Perfect. Thanks.

So here's what I'm gonna do... 400 mg Test Prop EW / 75 mg Var ED. No AI until gyno seen. If Gyno seen, Extremestane...

Run exe a week before cycle, let it stabilize, then cycle. It better to not get gyno, then to get it then try to treat it. Especially first cycle, you never know what will happen!:}

[floyderoid]

not on cycle or cycling anytime soon but, im confused about which AI to run. Which is better, Exe or Dex? Or is one generally used for one reason and the other used for another reason?

[HawaiianPride.]

not on cycle or cycling anytime soon but, im confused about which AI to run. Which is better, Exe or Dex? Or is one generally used for one reason and the other used for another reason?

Read my posts above.

[floyderoid]

ok so exe is better for bloating, gyno, and prevention. and dex is shit compared to exe. just wondering if there is a reason someone would prefer dex over exe?

[lifterjaydawg]

it's all personal preference and some people like adex, I prefer exemestane as well. Works best for me.

[Matt]

Is the Stane at www,Ar-r.com pharma grade stuff and do I need a script for it? Quality wise, how does their liquid Stane compare to taking a pharma grade anastrozole tab? Thanks.

Their stan is top notch not script needed...

[Sicko]

Run exe a week before cycle, let it stabilize, then cycle. It better to not get gyno, then to get it then try to treat it. Especially first cycle, you never know what will happen!:}

imo taking exe a week before you cycle will not accomplish anything since it takes a week just for the exe to reach steady blood plasma levels in your system.I would either run it with cycle for prevention measures or use it in your PCT for helping in recovery.

[HawaiianPride.]

imo taking exe a week before you cycle will not accomplish anything since it takes a week just for the exe to reach steady blood plasma levels in your system.I would either run it with cycle for prevention measures or use it in your PCT for helping in recovery.

You do not need an AI during PCT. And depending on the compounds being ran, Exe should be administered a week before AAS is administered.

[Sicko]

Did I misunderstand the week before to mean just take it one week before ancd that is all? or are you speaking about taking one week before and during cycle?
I would only run exe in PCT in conjunction with HCG and nolva.
Nolva 20 mg ed wk 1-6
HCG 500Iu ed wk 1-3
EXE 20mg ed wk 1-3
You dont like that pct HP?

[HawaiianPride.]

I mean start it a week before the cycle then discontinue the day you start your PCT.
I don't like that PCT but it's better than no PCT at all.
Tore/Nolva or Clomid/Nolva over HCG and a SERM.