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    ECA stack: why the asprin?

    I haven't found adequate information about the ECA stack yet.
    such as, why the asprin?
    how much asprin?
    what mgs ratio E:C:A?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toooosmall View Post
    I haven't found adequate information about the ECA stack yet.
    such as, why the asprin?
    how much asprin?
    what mgs ratio E:C:A?
    25mgs ephedrine
    200mgs caffeine
    82mgs aspirin

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    Helps with cortisol.

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    thanks guys!

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    lol but how does anyone get 82 mgs asprin?! are you trollin??

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    *LOL* No , im not , you can get it at any dollar store. Its usually enteric aspirin for daily use for cardiac health purposes. You can usually find it anywhere u find regular 325 mg aspirin.

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    ok cool, thanks. sorry, the number 82 seemed oddly specific

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    The ECA stack is pretty potent. The Ephedrine dilate the blood vessels so the blood can flow less impeded throughout the body. The caffeine speeds up the heart. The aspirin thins out the blood. There was a patent issued to a company with a specific blend of ECA. Sorry, I can't recall the name of the company. They found that it was the aspirin was the catalyst that made the whole ECA stack work. The recommended amount of ephedrine taken in one day should be about 100mg to 120mg. This is a potent stack.

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    thanks scotchG!

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    Is ephdrine a banned substance in other countries, like it is here. That stuff is really hard to get your hands on now days.

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    primatene tabs have ephedrine, can get them anywhere

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    Thins blood asprin

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    Asprin can facilitate a stronger "pump" by thinning blood. I assume that's one of the reasons it's included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireGuy View Post
    Helps with cortisol.
    Thanks I was aware that asprin helps extend the effects of the caffeine but wasn't aware of it's ability to inhibit cortisol...thanks for the info!

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    Should I add aspirin to my cytolean v2 and clen "cycle"?

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    baby aspirin typically comes in 81mg tabs

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    Quote Originally Posted by toooosmall View Post
    I haven't found adequate information about the ECA stack yet.
    such as, why the asprin?
    how much asprin?
    what mgs ratio E:C:A?
    2small,

    They're right it's a natural blood thinner and cortisol reducer.
    The stack calls for 100mgs of aspirin, or half a typical tablet. A baby aspirin is 81mgs, which "yes" will also suffice.

    Don't be afraid to search the archives.
    This should answer all of your questions:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...hlight=ephedra

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    Facts about Aspirin:

    Aspirin or white willow bark (its herbal equivalent) was a constant ingredient of ephedra supplements used before. It's not recommended to include aspirin to EC Stack but if you want to replace it with baby aspirin (81mg). There are various reasons to avoid taking aspirin. It's medically proved that supplements containing only ephedrine and caffeine are far more effective than those with aspirin. ECA Stack contained 325mg in each dose and taking such dosage 3 times a day decreases the risks of high blood pressure, gastrointestinal symptoms including ulcers and others. As a nonsteriodal anti-inflammatory drug aspirin is dangerous to use 3 times a day at the dosage of about 1000mg and it's allowed only by physicians.

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    Interesting. The chick I'm training is only taking her ECA twice a day so would this help with some of the problems you listed? I can't really see asprin negatively effecting the EC, as long as it's taken in small amounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by X83 View Post
    Facts about Aspirin:

    Aspirin or white willow bark (its herbal equivalent) was a constant ingredient of ephedra supplements used before. It's not recommended to include aspirin to EC Stack but if you want to replace it with baby aspirin (81mg). There are various reasons to avoid taking aspirin. It's medically proved that supplements containing only ephedrine and caffeine are far more effective than those with aspirin. ECA Stack contained 325mg in each dose and taking such dosage 3 times a day decreases the risks of high blood pressure, gastrointestinal symptoms including ulcers and others. As a nonsteriodal anti-inflammatory drug aspirin is dangerous to use 3 times a day at the dosage of about 1000mg and it's allowed only by physicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X83 View Post
    Facts about Aspirin:

    Aspirin or white willow bark (its herbal equivalent) was a constant ingredient of ephedra supplements used before. It's not recommended to include aspirin to EC Stack but if you want to replace it with baby aspirin (81mg).
    ACTUALLY IT'S CALLED THE ECA STACK SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY ADDING ASPIRIN - IT'S 1/3 OF THE 'ACTUAL' STACK. AND AGAIN THE FORMULA AS FIRST CITED IN MUSCULAR DEVELOPMENT MAGAZINE IN '91 (PRIOR TO IT'S INITIAL MAINSTREAM COMPILATION, MARKETING AND SELLS BY TWIN LABS AS RIPPED FUEL) CALLS FOR 100 MG. BUT AS CITED 81 MG DELIVERS THE SAME EFFECT.

    There are various reasons to avoid taking aspirin. It's medically proved that supplements containing only ephedrine and caffeine are far more effective than those with aspirin. ECA Stack contained 325mg in each dose and taking such dosage 3 times a day decreases the risks of high blood pressure, gastrointestinal symptoms including ulcers and others. As a nonsteriodal anti-inflammatory drug aspirin is dangerous to use 3 times a day at the dosage of about 1000mg and it's allowed only by physicians.
    The above bolded clause can end in an infinite number of ways, for example:

    There are various reasons to avoid taking...
    steroids
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    However, as relatively intelligent adults we would logically consider any pre-existing or newly developing conditions (like those you pointed out) when "taking" anything. None of this makes taking something like 100-300 mg of aspirin daily for an otherwise healty adult male, during a limited cutting phase of training overtly threatening or harmful in anyway!

    But to each his own, and just as we all must choose what to take and not take, you're entitled to your opinion, but said subjective opinion should not come across as truth or scare tactics with grossly elevated dosages. No formula I know of enlists 1000 mg of aspirin a day...certainly not the ECA stack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by atton View Post
    Should I add aspirin to my cytolean v2 and clen "cycle"?
    anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atton View Post
    anyone?
    you should get the real thing (ECA), fat burners these days for the most part are over-hyped crap that is a waste of money. Now if you already have cytolean then I see no reason you can't add asprin to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atton View Post
    Should I add aspirin to my cytolean v2 and clen "cycle"?
    Clen , "yes", it would amplfy it.

    Cyctoleand v2, we'd need to know the ingredients. Out of intrigue, I looked them up:

    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 3 CytoTabs
    Servings per Container: 30
    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
    Proprietary Blend 566 mg *
    Green Tea Extract, Propietary Extract of Pericarpium Citri Reticulatae, B-Phenylethylamine HCL, Propietary Extract of Paullinia Cupana.
    Psycho-Corticoid Optimization Matrix 420mg *
    Caffeine, Lactium (aS1-casein tryptic decapeptide), 7B-OH (7b-hydroxy-dehydroepiandrosterone), Chinese Boxthorn Extract (Lycium chinense), Bioperine, Huperzine A
    *Daily value not established.
    **Based on 2000 calorie diet

    Other Ingredients: Dicalcium phosphate, microcrystalline cellulose, stearic acid, croscarmellose sodium, hydroxyprophyl methylcellulose, magnesium stearate, titanium dioxide, triacetin, sillicon dioxide, FD&C yellow #6, FD&C yellow #5, FD&C Red #40.
    Like Imola said, it's "...over-hyped crap", I don't even see a legitimate Ephedra mimicker LOL!!! These ingredients basically add up to a good water pill with some caffiene...sorry. What you could do is add this to the Clen and aspirin, because nothing in it is contraindicated with Clen.
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