Any advice appreciated

[dano4109]

Hello there i would firstly like to state that i know only a little about these products and i am by no means an expert, which is why i seek any advice i can get, so if i offend anyone with what may seem ignorance please remember everyone must learn. Basically i am 25 years old, i am about 5'10 and weigh 78 kg. My diet consists of a 2g per kg intake of protein, a 3g-per kg of carbs and of course the fibre coming from the green veges i eat with every meal. I have cycled on dianabol in the past but whilst it was good for my strength and general wellbeing it was just not the compound for me i feel. So my plan is to use as little of the compounds as possible as i have only minimal experience. But i wish to use 500mg of sustanon per week for 6 weeks and durabolin (npp) at 200mg for 6 weeks. I use npp because i can not get deca. Also i was wanting to stack this with 75mg of trenbolone. In theory this should be ok, but sometimes theory and practicality are different so any advice would be great. thanks

[D7M]

Is this your first cycle?

I think you're still a bit light to be cycling,

and that cycle is a mess, my friend.

[Dont wanna be old]

Originally Posted by D7M

Is this your first cycle?

I think you're still a bit light to be cycling,

and that cycle is a mess, my friend.

By the time you stop that cycle is the time it will be at its most effective point .
Npp and Sustanon is terrible for new users due to frequency of shots . Tren is hard on some people . Not something you want to experiment with .

If you wanna do short cycles . Try OTC pro-hormones that are 4 to 6 weeks . They still require PCT . You will make gains more than that of a average joe with less side effects of AAS .


At 5'10'' you can still put on a few kg with good diet and training .

[elpropiotorvic]

How long have u been following this diet?

[BJJ]

What is your bf?

[dano4109]

No not first cycle. My first was just dianabol at 45mg a day with nolvadex. But obviously still a novice by any means, i only know what i have read and researched on my behalf, unfortunately there are so many opinions and so much information i am finding it hard to sift through fact from fiction and the likes.

[dano4109]

been following that diet for about 6 months. Prior to that my carbs were more than that. It was more like 4g carbs per kg. But i have read the dietry intake from health specialist, as to whether or not its correct in comparison to what is optimum for my specific purpose i am unsure at this point. Again so many people have different versiion of what a good diet is. I can only go off what i know and what these " specialists" say.

[dano4109]

The pinning doesnt really bother me, just like another tattoo or another needle before another lot of stitches ha. But thank you for that advice, i will follow that for sure.

[Aizen Sosuke]

If the pinning doesn't bother you then go with sustanon at 500mg a week. Pin 1/2cc everyother day for more stable blood levels. Save the npp and forget tren for a while. Stay on the sustanon for 10 weeks and then do your PCT.

Have you got anything planned for PCT?

[dano4109]

clomid and nolva both:
300mg clomid + 40mg nolva day 1, 50mg clomid + 20mg nolva 20 days. That was plan for pct was what i had in mind

[CHUCKYthentic]

pct is a little off, but u have the compounds correct. need to add an AI if you re not running one on cycle

tell me what your proposed cycle is and goals with it?

[dano4109]

Basically my goals are i wish to bulk up a bit as to my 78kg being very lean which im happy about, but i cant seem to gain any more. So i wish to utilize sustanon as opposed to test enanth, cyp or prop silply becuase of the deconate ester and prop ester in sustanon. I was only going to use 250mg as i have not run test before only dianabol. I was planning to use npp to act as frontload for cycle and to keep the gains a little leaner despite sustanon apparently giving less water retention than enanth or cypionate. But i have been told i should drop the npp and just run with sustanon if i choose to at 500mg a week. If i am to use an ai i would be inclined to use armidex despite its price .5mg eod. Main gol as i said is to bulk up a bit and to gain some strength

[CHUCKYthentic]

ya def want to drop the npp and stick to test only

only down side to sustanon is that it needs to be injected EOD. for someones 1st cycle that can be rough, some can do some cant

test e or c would be ideal, and honestly there are ways to avoid the bloat

given your size the 1st obvious problem would be your weight. BUT as u said, you re not looking to gain too much weight

if u really want to frontload the cycle, an oral like dbol or drol would be a good choice. if u go with sus then u can utilize the prop ester and itll kick in a little faster than say test e or c

id stick with a test only if i were u based on your results. as for the adex, up to u. many recommend not using it in your 1st cycle to see if you re gyno prone. if u want to take that risk, its up to u. if not run the adex .25-.5mg EOD like said above. if u run it on cycle itll not be needed in pct

ok hahaha all that i just said aside. look into a 10-12 week cycle, dosed at 500mg/week

if u go with sus, 125mg EOD
test e or c 250mg every 3.5 days

PCT, something along the lines of:
clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20

note that PCT start time will differ depending what compound u choose, ask me if you re not sure

make sure u really have a set diet planned out, i recommend getting this in the diet thread

anymore Qs let me know

[dano4109]

Thanks alot Chuckythentic, thats a great help. Cheers

[CHUCKYthentic]

yup. make sure u continue to do some research as well as figure out the PCT start times. some guys have diff opinions on this. i know i do, but its what works for me

good luck