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Old 11-03-2009, 12:55 PM
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Tren n prop Cycle

Im planning out my cycle for april. Im thinking of doing

12 week of test prop 500mg a week
10 weeks of tren A 500mg
50 mg d-bol weeks 1-4
anavar 80 mg weeks 6-12
While running hgh 4 ius

LAst year I ran
500 mg test cyp 14 weeks
500 mg decca9 weeks
aprox 100 mg tren A weeks 10-13
50 mg db weeks 1-4
anavar 50 mg for weeks10-14

I kinda just threw the tren in there to see how I reacted with it befroe the next cycle.

ANy sugestions on the prop and tren dosages?
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:32 PM
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how are you getting 500mg/week of prop, thats 71.4mg day. I would drop the dbol, not needed with short esters imo. Also i would run the tren for the 12 weeks too.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:48 PM
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I wasnt planning on prop 500 exaclty. figured I shoot 125 every other day. same with the tren. I thoiguht You are supsoed to stop the tren a lil befreo the test? Dbol has always worked wonders for me even thoguh its a short ester cyle wont it still be benifiacal to me?
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:10 PM
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no need to stop the tren b4 prop, acetate ester is even shorter than the propionate so both will be out of your system in same sort of time, as for the dbol i've only ever used it to kickstart a long estered cycle and even then it only adds a ton of water.
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:14 PM
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Your cycle is a bit long you will notice after approxiamtely 9-10 weeks your gains wont be as good on the short esters. Tren A should be injected ED to keep you blood levels stable and your sides down. I personally wouldn't add any other compounds. I also like to keep my tren higher then my test. I want tren to do the work and the test is so that it wont shut me down.
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:14 PM
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do you plan on running a prolactin antogonist?
what does your pct look like?
stats?
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guys im new to tren... and im not trying to sound stupid here.... but what exactly is a prolactin antagonist?
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:01 PM
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basically tren raises prolactin levels, a prolactin antagonist like cabergoline will keep levels low
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thank you.....
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:06 PM
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Well I usly only run one cycle a year so I figured 12 weeks. Would be better than 10. Why what do u suggest? I still don't nkow what a prolactin is. Ill have to do the research. I'm on my cell phne now so will do it later. I ran tren b4 with out it. No problems. My pct will be 4 weeks of clomid and nolvadex teiring down each week. As far as dbol. So its just water does that mean its pointless? Usly used to kick start gains. Well if the tren n prop are already workin wouldn't the db just give me more gains?
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:00 PM
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well i prolactin antagonist will help with the common sides of tren, obviously heightened prolactin levels, night sweats, sleep... given your tren is good tren!

can also have some sexual benefits, ill post up a link on that in a sec

as for the dbol everyone is diff. u can run a low dose, have a clean diet and not get bloat. an AI will help in that dept too.

i personally dont see anything wrong with throwin dbol in there too

may want to consider an AI on cycle, if u dont need it def run one in your pct
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http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=356499

^^^great read on caber
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I would run the tren until week 11. (to maximize the synergy between tren + var.)

I wouldn't use caber unless necessary. No need for a dopamine antagonist in your system unless prolactin issues make it absolutely necessary.

I run 19-nors in many cycles, and I never get prolactin related gyno.

Otherwise though, I really like the cycle. I would probably opt to switch the d-bol for anadrol @ 100 - 150mg ED for the first 4 weeks (but that's just person preference.)

How long are you planning on staying on the GH for?! or are you on it now?
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:04 PM
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i just got off the gh about a month ago. I will get back on in feb have it in me for about 3 months pre cycle
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I wouldnt run tren above 350-400 on your first go round. Tren is harsh and u dont need 500 a week at first. Pinning ED is almost a must in my eyes, and u dont want to pin ED for more than 8 weeks.


Just my 2 cents from when i did it the first time.
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