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06-20-2005, 07:15 PM
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Anavar experience
For the past 2 weeks I have added 40mg Anavar(split up 20mg/2x day) to my prop 100mg ED/Eq 150mg EOD cycle. I like the hardness that it has given me, but I really find that I get pissed off more easily. I also did not know, until Money Boss Hustla & Hooker informed me in a post, that Var is a DHT derivative. Well now, I am not predisposed to hairloss (prop, cyp, enan, eq never gave me this), but I am now getting about 6-8 hairs in my hand every morning in the shower. I wanted to bump the var up, but I have decided not to because of the hairloss. Just an FYI.
-Logan13 
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06-20-2005, 11:34 PM
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06-21-2005, 12:04 AM
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Yeah, mate...you can tell what a steroid is derived from by it's chemical name. I'm basically the biggest geek on the planet, for knowing this, but here it goes:
If you look in the name of a steroid, and it's something like this: 2-oyy androstane 17b-ol 2-one (Which is the chemical name for Anavar) See the bold part? That means it's a DHT-derivative, with regards to it's base carbon structure. If it said: norandrostene 17b-ol 3-one (Nandrolone) Then you know the norandrostene part means it's derived from Nandrolone (or if you generally see 19-nor or something like that) and finally, if you see: the word testosterone (duh) or androstene in the name of the structure, then you know it's derived from testosterone. I expect my "Geek of the Year" trophy to be mailed out immediately....Vette also owes me a nomination for that award...for actually being to answer one of the most obscure and weird questions I've ever been asked about steroids.
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06-21-2005, 12:12 AM
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06-21-2005, 12:22 AM
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No, really...how uncool is it to actually know something like that....
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06-21-2005, 12:27 AM
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6-8hairs? C'mon bro! One loses 50-100hairs/day normaly! I'm predisposed to hairloss and have been taking Fina and Rogaine for like 6 months and they worked great but these past few weeks i'm noticing more and more hairloss..
Anyways i'm currantly on Var and it hasn't accelerated my hairloss at all.
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06-21-2005, 12:32 AM
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lol .....i dont think its unkool i wished i knew all that..i read your post and still dont understand it....i just thank god we have HOOKER...
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06-21-2005, 12:34 AM
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Oh yea....sometimes scientists break those rules...and others, with regaards to naming steroids...
Quinbolone, for example, is actually Eq (boldenone) with a different ester. I can't imagine why they'd do something like that....or when they can break the "naming" rules...different rules seem to apply with Eq and Dbol type products notably.... I don't know why that is...
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#9
06-21-2005, 12:46 AM
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we should put together a thread for everyone thats ignorant like me when i comes to steroid names and other affiliated terminoligies. "deffinitions for NEWBIES"..
all the names and abbreviations.. for example i had a list from my seller i was lookin for dianabol and didnt see it on there so i changed up my cycle a bit and then after i ordered i seen a thread Anabol and then looked back on my sellers list to see if he had it...stupid me im a dumb ass..i had too order more sh1t Anabol=Dianabol........... 
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06-21-2005, 07:51 AM
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Agoviron - Methyltestosterone Agoviron-depot - Test Suspension Agoviron inj - Test Propionate Ambosex - Estandron Amino glute ahimid - Cytadren Anabol - Dianabol Anabolicum - Dianabol Anabolicum Vister - Anabolicum Vister Anabolikum - Dianabol Anabolin - Dianabol Anaboline - Deca-Durabolin Anador - Anadur Anadurin - Anadur Anapolon - Anadrol 50 Anasteron - Anadrol 50 Anatrophill - Oxandrolone Anavar - Oxandrolone Andoredan - Dianabol Andro 100 - Test Enanthate Andro-Cyp - Testosterone Cypionate Androfort-Richt - Test Propionate Andro LA - Testosterone Cypionate Andro pository - Test Enanthate Android - Methtyltestosterone Androlan - Test Propionate Androlan Aqueous - Test Suspension Androlin - Test Suspension Androlone-D200 - Deca-Durabolin Andronaq-50 - Test Suspension Andronaq LA - Test Cypionate Andronute - Test Cypionate Androral - Methyltestosterone Androtardyl - Test Enanthate Androxon - Andriol Andryl 200 - Test Enanthate APL - HCG Ara Test - Test Propionate Arcosterone - Methyltestosterone Arderone 100/200 - Test Enanthate Ardomon - Clomid Biogonadyl - HCG Bionabol - Dianabol Boldebal - Equipose Brumegon - HCG Catanidin - Catapres Catapresan - Catapres Ceadon - Nolvadex Cesbron - Clenbuterol C.G - H.C.G Choragon - H.C.G Chorex - H.C.G Chor. 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06-21-2005, 09:07 AM
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Being extremely intelligent doesn't make you a geek. It makes you smarter than 99.5% of the rest of the yo-yo's out there. Thank you hooker for always providing such exacting and reliabel information!
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06-21-2005, 09:42 AM
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I'm not in the top .5%, believe me...I'm sure of that.
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06-21-2005, 09:44 AM
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ok - poor percentage by way of comparison.
Your definitley a knowledgeable asset to this bored, thanks bro!
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06-21-2005, 09:55 AM
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dont forget test is one of the leading hairloss roids bro!!
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06-21-2005, 10:05 AM
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I think it's funny that Logan is standing there counting the eight hairs he lost....
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06-21-2005, 10:12 AM
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Imagine how much fun those meetings are...? 
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06-21-2005, 11:03 AM
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Hooker......We are all lucky and glad you are here bro!!!! You just keep the info coming.....because for most of us here...Knowledge is power and you are a Powerful MoFo!!!! Hats off...
MJ
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06-21-2005, 11:28 AM
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if it makes you feel any better - var makes me pissed off too, but the moodiness generally fades over the first few weeks.
As far as the hairloss goes - it's extremely complicated & could be due to loads of factors - I doubt very much that it's from the Var tho (even though loosely it's a ''DHT derivative'') - more likely test related (although the var might have an indirect effect through SHBG / estrogen etc)
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06-21-2005, 11:33 AM
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Odd, I had no mood issues at all with Var. No hair loss either but I am OK there as both grandfathers, more importantly my Moms dad, died with full heads of hair in thier 80's If you are not genetically predisposed to hair loss, do not worry.
As for you Hooker, thanks for bringing back the nightmares of Organic Chemistry in college.
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06-21-2005, 11:41 AM
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NO problem...I never took any advanced chem classes, and I barely passed the one bio class I took in college.
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06-21-2005, 11:50 AM
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06-21-2005, 11:57 AM
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Yeah...intellegence it measured by IQ numbers (Intellegence Quotient scores). The most common test is the Stanford-Binet, although others are acceptable.
IQ is simply your Chronological age divided in relation to your mental age, on a standard deviation. If you are 10 years old, with the learning ability (intellegence) of a 14 year old, then you have a 140 IQ. Get it? Mensa, for example requires 2 standard deviations above the general population (32 points, in this case), or top 2% of the general population...this means a qualifying IQ is 132+ to get in. A 136 puts you around the intellegence range of Darwin and Locke (*estimated).
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06-21-2005, 12:28 PM
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one more
 and im done.my parents had me take that test from a doctor when i was 8 or ten years old. i scored a 142, they showed me the papers years ago. but ever since seeing that number i have put little faith in the iq test. i took the lsat recently and probably landed in the 70th percentile... far from genius! do you think that years of adolescent drug abuse could have dropped that number significantly or was it skewed to start with? for the original thread: test makes my hair fall out all over the place. anavar doesn't. i will probably be saying goodbye to my hair this fall *sniff*
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06-21-2005, 12:39 PM
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I don't know...all I know is that when asked on this board, most people are geniuses with regards to their IQ scores....
("My IQ score is a billion-ka-jillion...is that high?" "I'm even smarter than my manager at the Krausers I work at...") IQ is generally thought to be static throughout your life, though. Anyway, yeah...anavar is DHT-derived...I think MBH had some hairloss with it. Ketokonazole shampoo may help you to not lose hair when you are using DHT-based steroids.
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06-21-2005, 12:43 PM
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yeah, the thing is i have the number but i don't believe it. i'm definately not trying to prove i'm a genius, i KNOW i am not that intelligent and i wanna know why i'm average with a slightly above average score...
anyway, thnx for responding wtf is a krausers?
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06-21-2005, 12:50 PM
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I think that may be a NJ thing...it's like a WaWa...or 7-11...
Ya know....like..one of those places? The score you mentioned isn't "slightly above average"...it's like...in the top 1% of the population....you should be very happy with it.
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06-21-2005, 01:01 PM
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yeah, i'm waaaay waaaaaaaaaaay down from the top 1%. i'd be happy with it were it legitimate. have you taken the test? were you confidant in it's accuracy?
7-11... got it.
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06-21-2005, 01:21 PM
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Actually...intellegence is that score.
Like if you say "I got a 140iq, but I'm not that intellegent" it's like saying "I move very quickly in water, but I can't swim fast"...if you understand the first part of the sentence....you know that attaching it to the second part isn't really logical.
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06-21-2005, 01:35 PM
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right, just saying its skewed... don't know why.
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06-21-2005, 01:38 PM
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this is assuming the only moving done in water is swimming. what about struggling, motorboats, tied to a one hundred pound anchor, etc.
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06-21-2005, 01:47 PM
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"I move very quickly in water" assumes self propulsion...not aided, I believe. But I think you understand what I'm saying. If your IQ was measured in the top 1% of the population, it doesn't make sense to say you aren't intellegent.
"The test is skewed" is generally the battle-cry of the average, in my experience. Accepted IQ tests (Stanford-Binet, etc..) meet all criteria relevant to be considered a valid test; specifically of intellegence
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06-22-2005, 10:50 AM
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06-22-2005, 11:23 AM
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06-22-2005, 02:48 PM
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06-22-2005, 10:47 PM
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mensa... sounds like menses
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06-22-2005, 11:06 PM
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hooker you're starting to sound like my Organic Chem professor here at Rutgers University!!!! the bitch gives me nightmaresss
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06-23-2005, 08:41 AM
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Yeah.....I never took any chem classes, though...not since High School.
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08-24-2005, 06:35 AM
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All The Androgenic-anabolic Steroids Can Connect With The Androgenic Receptors Situated All Over The Human Body. Some Of The Receptors Are Situated In He Folicles Of The Hair And Central Nervous System. When Steroids Connect To Them They Can Develop Baldness,agressive Behaviour. Anavar And Eq Have Low Androgenic Values And Are Good Choice I You Are Scared Of Those Side Effects, But Dont Think They Cant Develop At All.
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08-24-2005, 06:47 AM
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myself reading alot of your post( studdeying) for more knowlege, in hope to be as good as you are some day.
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08-24-2005, 08:02 AM
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Smart people kan spel good. I can tell that most peple on this bord are geniuses.
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