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    Enanthate vs Sustanon 250

    Hey everyone, I'm a new user to this forum. I tried to search for a few questions but, couldn't come up with anything that really helps. I was thinking about doing 1 cycle to bulk myself up and gain some Stretch and real size. I'm 25 years old My HT is about 5"7 I weight about 145lbs. I don't know my muscle fat. I don't think I have to much bec, I’m pretty skinny. For the most part I keep to a good diet. I take multi vitamins, protein shakes and Creatine and I like to eat healthy. I have been working out for almost 3 years now. I love spending time at the gym. I don't really know a hole lot about steroids and I just don't want to start taking something without knowing 100% what I’m getting myself into. Or just taking something that's not ment for my me. If you need anymore info from me please ask. Sorry again if these questions have been asked before.

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    Welcome to the board dude. Now this is a classic case that can probably be fixed with a decent diet, and trust me, from experience, you dont have one. So before you consider juice why dont you lay out what you eat on a typical day and we can go from there

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    Please head over to the diet section your too light to be starting a cycle.

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    You need to go to the diet forum and get a solid diet down first. At 140 i bet your not eating right nor enough. Just my opinion though.
    Maybe post it up for others to look at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    Welcome to the board dude. Now this is a classic case that can probably be fixed with a decent diet, and trust me, from experience, you dont have one. So before you consider juice why dont you lay out what you eat on a typical day and we can go from there
    plus 2. but i would go with test e, less injections and sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale View Post
    Welcome to the board dude. Now this is a classic case that can probably be fixed with a decent diet, and trust me, from experience, you dont have one. So before you consider juice why dont you lay out what you eat on a typical day and we can go from there
    Thank you welcome to be here. I just weighed myself and I’m 145lbs. Ok when I get up I’ll have a protein shake and some fruit or cereal. Maybe pancakes or something out of the freeze . Then I’ll have a shack later in the day mult grain bar or fruit cups. Then for lunch I’ll have tuna or a turkey sandwich maybe Peanut butter. Dinner I’ll have really anything whole wheat pasta or I eat a lot of red meat.

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    you need to eat whatever and everything bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondata View Post
    Thank you welcome to be here. I just weighed myself and I知 145lbs. Ok when I get up I値l have a protein shake and some fruit or cereal. Maybe pancakes or something out of the freeze . Then I値l have a shack later in the day mult grain bar or fruit cups. Then for lunch I値l have tuna or a turkey sandwich maybe Peanut butter. Dinner I値l have really anything whole wheat pasta or I eat a lot of red meat.
    double that and that sounds about right

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    Quote Originally Posted by warchild28 View Post
    you need to eat whatever and everything bro
    I dooo Lol.. I eat all-day .. I just don稚 eat like chocolate and drink Pepsi . I have two lunches bec, I go to work at 3am .

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    Thats not even enough...^^^

    Hondata... Generally to grow, most people eat around 4500cals a day, with roughly 300G's of protein from food(not shakes). Head over to the diet section and see what will suit you. Be sure to read the stickies...


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    You know that have sample diets for bulking and cutting. look at the bulking diet and taylor it so it works for you. You should be eating 8times a day. You need to get that weight up. How many calories are you consuming a day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0tolerance View Post
    double that and that sounds about right
    It doesn't sound like a lot But I really am a pig.. LOL. My parents and gf always say something bec, I eat so much. Like when I leave for work I値l fill my lunch box up with tons of food and by 12:00 pm it will be empty and I値l have another lunch when I get home. I just want to put a lot of muscle on. I want people to look and me and be like dammmm HAHA..

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Thats not even enough...^^^

    Hondata... Generally to grow, most people eat around 4500cals a day, with roughly 300G's of protein from food(not shakes). Head over to the diet section and see what will suit you. Be sure to read the stickies...


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    Great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc95605 View Post
    You know that have sample diets for bulking and cutting. look at the bulking diet and taylor it so it works for you. You should be eating 8times a day. You need to get that weight up. How many calories are you consuming a day?
    I really have nc.. Well I have breakfast. A sack later . Two lunches . Dinner. and I'll have something before I go to bed. Plus another thing I知 short. 5-05 but, the license pic is old.

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    thanks for everyone's help. What will happen if I do take a cycle of Enanthate or Sustanon 250 ? In a few weeks after I start doing alittle better on the diet?

    Sorry for all the questions and thanks for everyones help again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hondata View Post
    thanks for everyone's help. What will happen if I do take a cycle of Enanthate or Sustanon 250 ? In a few weeks after I start doing alittle better on the diet?

    Sorry for all the questions and thanks for everyones help again.
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it will take more than a few weeks. Id say for your height the minimum to start a cycle would be 170.

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    research more shoot enth when you gain natty potential

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    Quote Originally Posted by *ANABOLIC SUPERMAN* View Post
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but it will take more than a few weeks. Id say for your height the minimum to start a cycle would be 170.

    Ok thanks. Why is it good to be at the right weight before? Also what痴 difference in the Enanthate vs Sustanon 250. Would anyone them be good when I am ready? You think someone my size at 5"05 can weight that much? I just though that痴 why I should start .. But , you guys are the prooos

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    if you aren't eating 3-4 k callories a day your pissing in the wind bro.
    Caloric intake needs to be calculated, then insert the correct diet.
    All this can be done with a little research
    Good luck and God bless

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    I took my first cycle about 8 years ago and had only been working out for a year. I hurt myself about four weeks into it because I was not ready. You should really try to grow more naturaly first. Just like these guys have told you, get your diet right and put on as much weight as you can first.

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    Ok I deff will guys and ladys. When I think I am ready what will be my best Like after I get my diet together and my weight up. Enanthate or Sustanon 250? I still will like to get info if that's ok. Will one of those be better to take then the other for me?

    Also if I do start doing this later can I only do it ones a week until the cycle is done or I will have to do twice a week during the end?

    Is there any side affects for only doing 1 or 2 cycle? I heard of muscle acing. I'm guessing there is no long term affects unless you are doing this for yearss?

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    I like the enathate, but either one would be ok.

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    I becon...Sustanon has less sides compared to Test E. from my researrch ^^

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    I becon...Sustanon has less sides compared to Test E. from my researrch ^^
    No truth to this statement in fact in most cases the opposit is true. The differen esters released in sustanon cause fluctuations in blood levels of the horomone testosterone and thus increase the chance of getting side effects. Sustanon needs to be shot eod minimum, ed if you really wanted level blood concentration.

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    I agree with redz...

    Test E is the way to go for beginners..

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    No truth to this statement in fact in most cases the opposit is true. The differen esters released in sustanon cause fluctuations in blood levels of the horomone testosterone and thus increase the chance of getting side effects. Sustanon needs to be shot eod minimum, ed if you really wanted level blood concentration.
    2nd that! Test e gives more stable blood levels than sustanon !

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    Ok sounds like what everyone is saying that Enanthate is a little safer for a beginner. Now can I only take this ones a week for my full cycle or do I have to do twice a week during the end?

    thanks

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    Twice a week is best why cant you manage that?

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    I can if that's the way it should be done. Just didn't know the right way for someone my size and a first time user maybe.. I just want to do everything right. If I decide to start.

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    Which you shouldnt...

    Re-read this...

    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Thats not even enough...^^^

    Hondata... Generally to grow, most people eat around 4500cals a day, with roughly 300G's of protein from food(not shakes). Head over to the diet section and see what will suit you. Be sure to read the stickies...


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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Which you shouldnt...

    Re-read this...
    I shouldn't what? Please explain . Thank you. Just getting all my info then going to make chose if I want to start using after my diet is all right.

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    I said you shouldnt start... You need to get that diet in check..

    Which is what you just said you were gonna do so... kudos!

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    I know lol.. I just want to get all my info down ... What's the best and safest way to start injecting?

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    What do you mean whats the best and safest way to inject?

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    What do you mean whats the best and safest way to inject?
    like where should I inject into my body? Also anyone know about Freezer tests? To See what you are getting is real? If so please let me know the steps

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    Dont know about tests.

    But generally for beginners using Test E. Glute injections are the way to go.

    Check this out:
    http://www.steroid.com/inject.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Dont know about tests.

    But generally for beginners using Test E. Glute injections are the way to go.

    Check this out:
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    Great find. Thank you.

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    If I ever do decide to go and buy. Is there anyway, I can test what I got and see if it's real?

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    Test E IS Enanthate right ?

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    yes.. E = the esther Enanthate !

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