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The amazing effects of Anavar

I just finished a 7 week Anavar only cycle. I took a total of 40mg a day and over the course of the 7 weeks I gained about 10lbs of muscle; lost a couple pounds of fat; and developed the hard - vascular look that I have always idealized. In short: I loved the Var. The only problem I really had with Anavar was the price.

I was wondering if anyone knew of a more cost effective way to keep fat off as well as maintain the hard, vascular look that Var provided. Sugestions anyone ?
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Age, stats???? Im curious because I know alot of youngs guys that have had similar results.
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[quote=smfo00;4828838]I just finished a 7 week Anavar only cycle. I took a total of 40mg a day and over the course of the 7 weeks I gained about 10lbs of muscle; lost a couple pounds of fat; and developed the hard - vascular look that I have always idealized. In short: I loved the Var. The only problem I really had with Anavar was the price.

I was wondering if anyone knew of a more cost effective way to keep fat off as well as maintain the hard, vascular look that Var provided. Sugestions anyone ?[/QUOTE
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Diet and cardio............
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I just finished a 7 week Anavar only cycle. I took a total of 40mg a day and over the course of the 7 weeks I gained about 10lbs of muscle; lost a couple pounds of fat; and developed the hard - vascular look that I have always idealized. In short: I loved the Var. The only problem I really had with Anavar was the price.

I was wondering if anyone knew of a more cost effective way to keep fat off as well as maintain the hard, vascular look that Var provided. Sugestions anyone ?
I was also considering the same cycle in the future... When you say hard and vascular look what do you mean? Did you start out chubby and now your in shape, etc ? . Did you have some descent vascular traits prior or was it all brought upon this cycle.... More details if you don't mind such as stats before and after. I would like to have a little more of your specifics...
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Im 25 years old; I do three days a week of cardio training - 2 days at 30 mins, 1 intravel day at 30 mins; my diet is totally on point. When I talk about muscle hardness and vascularity I am refering to the look of the muscle. Diet and cardio are NOT enough to acheive these kind of results if you do not already have a perdetermined genetic factor... I find it hard to believe that people on a Steroids forum do not know what I am talking about when I refer to steroid related "hardness". Come on people.

Send me a private message and I will be willing to discuss any questions you might have about my cycle. I would be more than happy to answer any of your questions.
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Lets ask and answer these questions on the open forum so everyone can learn. Honestly, I was going to do the same exact cycle, except run it for 8 weeks. Just curious what your bodyfat % was before you started...
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I just finished a 7 week Anavar only cycle. I took a total of 40mg a day and over the course of the 7 weeks I gained about 10lbs of muscle; lost a couple pounds of fat; and developed the hard - vascular look that I have always idealized. In short: I loved the Var. The only problem I really had with Anavar was the price.

I was wondering if anyone knew of a more cost effective way to keep fat off as well as maintain the hard, vascular look that Var provided. Sugestions anyone ?
ANAVAR is an awesome anabolic,,great gains,,little to no side effects, It is expensive but well worrth the price IMO.
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The funny thing is and this is no lie... If you would have just done a hardcore diet and training and all that good stuff, you could have had the same look you have now without spending any money! All the Var did is take what you would have done in 12-20weeks by yourself and fast forwarded it! if you keep you fat intake super low, your carbs in balance for your amount of physical ativity and keep your water intake high which will keep your body from holding a lot of water and (also keep salt/sodium) low you can stay like that for quite a while!
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I was wondering if anyone knew of a more cost effective way to keep fat off as well as maintain the hard, vascular look that Var provided. Sugestions anyone ?
T-bol is a pretty good alternative to Anavar. It's a lot cheaper too.

Run T-bol for 7 - 8 weeks @ 50-60mg each day. It gives you 10 - 15 pounds of lean muscle, and it hardens me up quite nicely.
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T-bol is a pretty good alternative to Anavar. It's a lot cheaper too.

Run T-bol for 7 - 8 weeks @ 50-60mg each day. It gives you 10 - 15 pounds of lean muscle, and it hardens me up quite nicely.
To just keep running cycles of orals is not really the answer i dont think. Especially when all he needs to do to keep his gains is diet diet diet.
and not everyone is going to gain 10-15# off of Turinabol I am sure it is possible to do that but it is not the normal! I would not gain 15# off of 7 weeks of Dianabol and that has water weight to it where as T-bol not so much! I would say 5-8# of Solid gains off of T-bol would be a safer estimate but still, in the end, I am sure this guy does not want to just keep running cyckles of orals to keep his gains! cause getting a new liver is going to end up costing more than any Anavar cycle!
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Im 25 years old; I do three days a week of cardio training - 2 days at 30 mins, 1 intravel day at 30 mins; my diet is totally on point. When I talk about muscle hardness and vascularity I am refering to the look of the muscle. Diet and cardio are NOT enough to acheive these kind of results if you do not already have a perdetermined genetic factor... I find it hard to believe that people on a Steroids forum do not know what I am talking about when I refer to steroid related "hardness". Come on people.

Send me a private message and I will be willing to discuss any questions you might have about my cycle. I would be more than happy to answer any of your questions.
Ive been researching but I'm not finding a specific cycle length for var!? From what everyone is talking about it seams to be around 7 to 8 wks I'm guessing ... If it is ran longer, is there better results since its considered a MILD ORAL??? Would that be a fair statement anyone???
As far as your statement about muscle hardness I understand that with relation to STEROIDS theres hardness in the equation well duh lol... I was just wondering how much of the characteristic's were brought upon by the drug... I'm unfamiliar with VAR thats why I'm asking these questions... Obviously genetics play a roll and stats diet etc...
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Im 25 years old; I do three days a week of cardio training - 2 days at 30 mins, 1 intravel day at 30 mins; my diet is totally on point. When I talk about muscle hardness and vascularity I am refering to the look of the muscle. Diet and cardio are NOT enough to acheive these kind of results if you do not already have a perdetermined genetic factor... I find it hard to believe that people on a Steroids forum do not know what I am talking about when I refer to steroid related "hardness". Come on people.
How low did your bodyfat get? Did you get it tested? DHT derivatives do give a hard/granite look to the muscles but only at a low low body fat. You'd be surprised how 'hard' diet and cardio will make you look
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The funny thing is and this is no lie... If you would have just done a hardcore diet and training and all that good stuff, you could have had the same look you have now without spending any money! All the Var did is take what you would have done in 12-20weeks by yourself and fast forwarded it! if you keep you fat intake super low, your carbs in balance for your amount of physical ativity and keep your water intake high which will keep your body from holding a lot of water and (also keep salt/sodium) low you can stay like that for quite a while!
Really? I would rather have low carbs and higher essential fats than super low fat. Protein + healthy fats are our friends! Carbs always make me fat, not fat. LOL.
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The funny thing is and this is no lie... If you would have just done a hardcore diet and training and all that good stuff, you could have had the same look you have now without spending any money! All the Var did is take what you would have done in 12-20weeks by yourself and fast forwarded it! if you keep you fat intake super low, your carbs in balance for your amount of physical ativity and keep your water intake high which will keep your body from holding a lot of water and (also keep salt/sodium) low you can stay like that for quite a while!
You really don't like Var huh? Just because it did not work well for you dosen't not mean it is not suited to others.

I say Var is great, lean gains, low sides, easy on the joints, good strengh gains and you get hard.
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I just finished a 7 week Anavar only cycle. I took a total of 40mg a day and over the course of the 7 weeks I gained about 10lbs of muscle; lost a couple pounds of fat; and developed the hard - vascular look that I have always idealized. In short: I loved the Var. The only problem I really had with Anavar was the price.

I was wondering if anyone knew of a more cost effective way to keep fat off as well as maintain the hard, vascular look that Var provided. Sugestions anyone ?

Were you eating under maintenance in calories, over maintenance, or at maintenance to achieve those results?
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sounds like you responded well to var. thats what its all about, listening to your body and seeing how you respond to compounds
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The funny thing is and this is no lie... If you would have just done a hardcore diet and training and all that good stuff, you could have had the same look you have now without spending any money! All the Var did is take what you would have done in 12-20weeks by yourself and fast forwarded it! if you keep you fat intake super low, your carbs in balance for your amount of physical ativity and keep your water intake high which will keep your body from holding a lot of water and (also keep salt/sodium) low you can stay like that for quite a while!
I agree! Thats what I was trying to tell him. Diet and cardio!!!
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Before I started Var I weighed around 190lbs and had a bf percent of 12 percent; Now I weight 195lbs and have 10 percent in body fat. It doesnt seems as impressive as it is but I did gain a few pounds of lean muscle and was able to do more with the Var, cardio, and diet than I would have been able to do with cardio and diet alone - it sped up the fat loss by several weeks, easily. The hardness that I got, though, was pretty amazing , probably the best feature of this drug for me.

I was eating slightly above maintenance: Would eat around 215 grams of protein a day and would eat around 200 grams of carb. So I only ate a little more than a gram of protein per 1lb of body weight - some people say that you should be eating 2lbs per 1lb of body weight when your bulking but I have always been able to put muscle on with a little less.
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clen is cheap n will keep the fat off. wont help with size or strength
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Before I started Var I weighed around 190lbs and had a bf percent of 12 percent; Now I weight 195lbs and have 10 percent in body fat. It doesnt seems as impressive as it is but I did gain a few pounds of lean muscle and was able to do more with the Var, cardio, and diet than I would have been able to do with cardio and diet alone - it sped up the fat loss by several weeks, easily. The hardness that I got, though, was pretty amazing , probably the best feature of this drug for me.

I was eating slightly above maintenance: Would eat around 215 grams of protein a day and would eat around 200 grams of carb. So I only ate a little more than a gram of protein per 1lb of body weight - some people say that you should be eating 2lbs per 1lb of body weight when your bulking but I have always been able to put muscle on with a little less.
I hear a high dose of var, 100mg ED, is like tren without the sides. great strength, hardness and vascularity
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What was your PCt like for your var only cycle?
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over the course of the 7 weeks I gained about 10lbs of muscle; lost a couple pounds of fat;
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The funny thing is and this is no lie... If you would have just done a hardcore diet and training and all that good stuff, you could have had the same look you have now without spending any money! All the Var did is take what you would have done in 12-20weeks by yourself and fast forwarded it! if you keep you fat intake super low, your carbs in balance for your amount of physical ativity and keep your water intake high which will keep your body from holding a lot of water and (also keep salt/sodium) low you can stay like that for quite a while!
So usually when you diet, you gain 10 lbs of LBM over 12-20 weeks?

I'm curious.
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So usually when you diet, you gain 10 lbs of LBM over 12-20 weeks?

I'm curious.

interested in the answer for this question
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I hear a high dose of var, 100mg ED, is like tren without the sides. great strength, hardness and vascularity
Makes me wanna try a anavar cycle. How is it coming off a cycle like that,hpta and all?
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why are people talking about diet, is that what op asked? I love all these "dieters" on forums and in gyms, they always look like SHIT.
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I did a t-bol and anavar cycle both ran at 40mgs and ran for 6 weeks. Gained 15 pounds and kept 10(this was also my first cycle). I did notice a bit downstairs however I did clomid 100mgs for the first week and 50mgs of clomid 2 weeks after. Everything is back to normal now
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this is right off steriod.com

so this shouldn't be that suprising

Now here´s some interesting stuff for anyone interested primarily in the fat loss properties of this stuff: Anavar may be what we´d call a "fat-burning steroid". Abdominal and visceral fat were both reduced in one study when subjects in the low/normal natural testosterone range used anavar (4). In another study, appendicular, total, and trunk fat were all reduced with a relatively small dose of 20mgs/day (8), and no exercise. In addition, weight gained with ´var may be nearly permanent too. It might not be much, but you´ll stand a good chance of keeping most of it. In one study, subjects maintained their weight (re)gains from anavar for at least 6 months after cessation (2)! Concomitantly, in another study, Twelve weeks after discontinuing oxandrolone, 83% of the reductions in total, trunk, and extremity fat were also sustained (8)! If you´re regaining weight, Anavar will give you nearly permanent gains, and if you are trying to lose fat (and you keep your diet in check), the fat lost with Anavar is basically looks to be nearly permanent. Check this chart out:
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So usually when you diet, you gain 10 lbs of LBM over 12-20 weeks?

I'm curious.
Well if you think a full grown man Gained that from just 40mg of Var than you are not as good as I though you were! 15# off of 40mg day of Var for a grown man is an Aweful lot of LBM to gain!
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You really don't like Var huh? Just because it did not work well for you dosen't not mean it is not suited to others.

I say Var is great, lean gains, low sides, easy on the joints, good strengh gains and you get hard.
Where does it say I dont like Var? I have never tried it and for the money Vs. Gains, I probably never will I know my brother ran a perfect diet and ran 50mg a day for 8 weeks and he only put on about 6# He did lose a bit of BF but as I said for me @ over 250#, i would easily need 80-120mg a day and that would get very expensive ED for 8-10 weeks
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I am getting inspired to run some var soon LOL.
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hey, guy at the top, uh smfo00, wanting a better deal on var. I dont think that I can tell you the bulk supplier on this forum, but you can buy it pretty dang cheap in bulk powder form. I found it and so can you. Ha ha ha ha ha
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^^^ yeah I would be careful might be a scam.
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I just finished a 7 week Anavar only cycle. I took a total of 40mg a day and over the course of the 7 weeks I gained about 10lbs of muscle; lost a couple pounds of fat; and developed the hard - vascular look that I have always idealized. In short: I loved the Var. The only problem I really had with Anavar was the price.

I was wondering if anyone knew of a more cost effective way to keep fat off as well as maintain the hard, vascular look that Var provided. Sugestions anyone ?
is it ok to do a Anavar cycle only?
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is it ok to do a Anavar cycle only?
definetly
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What was PCT? I vaguely remember reading it's not necessary with var as it doesn't suppress hormones. Is that right?
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What was PCT? I vaguely remember reading it's not necessary with var as it doesn't suppress hormones. Is that right?
It does mildly suppress your HPTA. It is not very toxic either. Couple high points about Oxandrolone.
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and how is it safe to do a anavar cycle with out test?
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iv seen great results with as little as 30mg ed... but i always run with test..

my bro did 8 weeks and put on 12lbs clean...
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Anavar is the most amazing steroid imo.
amazing lean gains, lost bodyfat/water and an all round hardness that no other steroid I have taken can compare.

I don't think I will ever run anything else because anavar suits my goals.
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I guess it comes down to how much you are willing to pay per pound of muscle gained. For what you will pay for an 8 week var only cycle I could do a real nice Test E T-bol cycle for maybe 12 weeks and have money left for PCT and supplements.

So, on what cycle would you gain the most muscle and strength?

Don't misunderstand, if Anavar ever comes down to the price of say dbol, I'll eat bowls of it for breakfast.

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