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    Test e or sustanon???

    I started my first cycle two weeks ago...in fiorst week used 100 mg deca and 250 mg testoviron schering i.e test e,...in 2nd week i doubled the dosgae and planned to use this dosage for coming weeks...now i didnot buyed whole stuff...now testovirons schering is not available in market,....should i buy sustanon instead of it or test e (iran)...because i have to mix it withy deca as...monday deca 100g and test e or sustanon 250 mg and same on thursday....plz advice...
    My height is 6 andim 25 .weight is 85 kg

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    Plzz helpp me people

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    lesson learned on why to have everything before you start.. you obviously dont have a pct planned out. Good luck keeping whatever gains you might make on this cycle.

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    I had a similar problem. I did Sustanon250 for 10 weeks, and then I couldn't find any more of it so I had to switch to Testoviron250 for 4 weeks.

    I've only done one cycle in my lifetime so don't take much heed in what I say, but I found the Sustanon250 to have more dramatic effects (but then again that could just be because I was taking Sustanon250 at the start of my cycle when I would see the biggest differences anyway).

    From steroids profiles I've read and so forth, it seems the difference between taking Sustanon250 and Testoviron250 is negligible. People tend to choose Testovirion250 because it's cheaper (about two thirds the price).

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    yer your fine, if you cant get hold of any test e, run 500mg of sustanon divided into 2 injections a week. I doubt very much that you will notice any difference. Also do some research and buy some simple pct meds, i.f clomid and nolvadex

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    heyy ..i have pct,.,.
    and 2ndly my source dint had them at that time and none other in tity..they got test e but not of germany but iran...
    2ndly to telll u people who said test e is cheap...
    please cumon...
    i use testoviron depot schering which is double the price of sustanon ...
    and i get sustanon at every other person..as it is mad ein pakistan and im also from pakistan....
    i know susta have 4 esters and testoviron depot which im using is test e...
    schering make two products of it...one includes test e and test prop and the other one is pure test e which im using...
    now plz tellme whether 4 esters are better or test e...
    and why people prefer test e in first cycle?....
    i want to mix sustanon with deca like i did with test e or i have the option of buying test e of iran...
    ???

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    i would go with sust, i think its way beta than test e, i get beta results on it, but ev1 diff

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    Yeeh sustanon is very good and less bloat than test e,c and omnas. I got mad acne at the end so watch out for that.

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    but i heard that you have to inject sust for other day ....?...

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    to answer ur question. As you have started test e i would continue with the iranian test e's, iv used them and theyre good. At the end of the day tho you will get similar results with sust or test as theyre practicaly the same thing other than doses and injection times

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    Quote Originally Posted by zunair View Post
    I started my first cycle two weeks ago...in fiorst week used 100 mg deca and 250 mg testoviron schering i.e test e,...in 2nd week i doubled the dosgae and planned to use this dosage for coming weeks...now i didnot buyed whole stuff...now testovirons schering is not available in market,....should i buy sustanon instead of it or test e (iran)...because i have to mix it withy deca as...monday deca 100g and test e or sustanon 250 mg and same on thursday....plz advice...
    My height is 6 andim 25 .weight is 85 kg
    I would go with some TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE if you can obtain it.

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    Test is test. Just try to keep your doses constant.

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    In how many weeks i can see my gains comming??9

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    In how many weeks u can see the gains starting with test e and deca ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by zunair View Post
    In how many weeks u can see the gains starting with test e and deca??
    Strength=4-6 weeks. Libido is instantly raised. Im on week 2 now of 350mg test ew.

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    Dude i m asking about gains not strenth...im
    on 3rd week...i hav strenth but no gains yet...im asking u...r u havingg ny gains?and secondly it seems we both r n same cycle...tellme ur email add if u want..we would share expreinces

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    I see strength gains and weight gains by the 4-5 week myself,but Im cutting so I dont expect much gains. You bulking?

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    what is your body fat%? could you repost the pic you posted then removed so we can see your base?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zunair View Post
    but i heard that you have to inject sust for other day ....?...
    you dont have to, just keeps blood levels more stable, less sides etc, e3d gives good results, ive done it two cycles at e3d now, trying eod this time to compare for myself

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    I prefer single ester myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romo6;4***201
    I prefer single ester myself.
    me too

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    200mg a week of deca is a waste

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel;4***379
    200mg a week of deca is a waste
    Its only good for joint support,not a a waste.

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    Dude i have body fat on
    my chest tummy alot...but how would i know the prcntage??2ndly someone said 200 mg is a wastw den how nuch should i use???..i hope at 4 or 5 week i should see the gains:s...but yet i only gained strenth but no cutt no gains no
    muscle:s

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    Post a pic as big requested. Diet has alot to do with bodyfat. Head over to the diet section and someone will help im sure. 300-400mg deca will make you grow,
    but not needed on the first cycle. Remember that the first cycle you do you will grow regardless of mg,some say they the first cycle was their best. Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omna82 View Post
    Yeeh sustanon is very good and less bloat than test e,c and omnas. I got mad acne at the end so watch out for that.

    Sust and Omnas are exactly the same.

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    I started out using test c and switched to Sust now only a couple more weeks on cycle.
    I shoot it EOD no sides yet..

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    sust i love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymnerd View Post
    Sust and Omnas are exactly the same.
    Thats true. But back in the day there were a difference. I have tried both so I should know.

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    dude....
    my pic is a kind of shame for me..as i have no body bo muscle but still i wud show u.iam posting it here for better advice...
    i need muscle on my body which is not there...its all somethinmg bloating
    Last edited by zunair; 10-21-2009 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zunair View Post
    dude....
    my pic is a kind of shame for me..as i have no body bo muscle but still i wud show u.iam posting it here for better advice...
    i need muscle on my body which is not there...its all somethinmg bloating
    tbh you need to get a diet sorted and blow off some body fat first

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    DUDE I TRIED ALOT BUT COULNT GET RID OF THIS FAT...DUDE DIS IS MY DIET TOTAL PROTEIN....
    meal 1:

    6 egg whites
    i cup oatmeal
    a spoon of cottage cheese

    meal 2:
    One scoop whey(before workout)


    meal 3after workout)
    0.5 kgs boiled mashed beef
    orange juice 0.5 ltr

    meal 4:

    2 pieces chciken breast steam
    chicken sand witch


    meal 5:

    6 pieces of fish
    fruit

    meal 6:

    2 pieces of chicken breast steam

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    Tellme what should i add or decrease in it..im demotivated.

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    anyone derE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qdonnellcalderoni View Post
    Glad you bumped an old thread for no reason!

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