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    Please advise on first Cycle.

    Age: 39
    Weight: 270
    Height: 6'4"
    Bodyfat: 14% to 18%, depending on which caliper or scale used.
    cycles: 0 previous
    Years training: Since Jr. High; solid through college, off, and no on again for 2 years. Mostly powerlifting, or for sports.

    Basic as they come I think:

    Weeks 1-12 Test e 600mg weekly; injected Monday morning & Thursday night.

    PCT:

    Taken 2 weeks after last test e shot:

    Nolva: 40/40/20/20
    Clomid: 100/50/50/50

    Now, two wrinkles.

    Adding Proviron at 80mg ED. My question is this; I've seen suggestions of use from weeks 1-8, or weeks 6-12. What is the best suggestion from the board?

    Second wrinkle:

    I wouldn't mind a booster to start for weeks 1-4.But this is only in case the Proviron is a late addition to the cycle. If it's weeks 1-12, or 1-8, etc, then I'd skip the boost. I'd also rather skip the 17aa because of it's sides (BP, water retention, etc.) and stick with DHT based, because my family is prone to gyno (dad), but not hair loss, etc. I also understand that my first cycle should be relatively simple, so, just throwing this out for suggestions.

    Gracias.
    Last edited by LGM; 08-10-2010 at 04:25 PM.

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    14-18% is quite the difference in body fat.

    Personally, I'd just run the test only for your first run and see how it goes,

    being sure to get blood work before your cycle, and after your pct.

    kudos on the a well planned first cycle.

    We don't see that here often

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    Myself I would not run a kick start for first cycle @ 39 .
    Each week you will get stronger . The test should be maximized by the end of the 4th week if not sooner .
    To be stronger than you have ever been in a very short time you are risking injury .
    I would not go below 3 reps on any exercise .
    Also try to keep compound movement exercises .
    Spend extra time warming up and stretching .

    Good luck .
    Let us know your success .

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    I approve of Test only. How's the Ancillaries look?

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    Proviron is such a mild steroid i think you can run it the whole cycle as it is not liver toxic.. i would probably wait until week 3 to start it as the test takes a while to kick in..

    I did two cycles years ago and am just starting my first one in two weeks.. doing very similar to what i suggest, but running Deca at 300mg because i have done it before and know i am not prone to side effects.

    Test and Proviron complement eachother. I think you will be very pleased with your cycle.

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    Nice cycle either way you should see nice gains, good luck

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    Solid cycle, cant really comment on the proviron , never used it

    good luck

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