4-ad question

Background. Im 25, training for 5+ years, and have done and M1-t cycle followed w/ clomid before.

I wasnt very happy w/ the sides w/ the m1t, but i do know that many recommend using 4-ad to combat the lethargy, not sure who has done a cycle themselves w/ and w/out to document the differences, but my question is what 4ad is prefered? I gather the transdermal is...what brand? Dermabolics? Is the powder really that much worse?

And what exactly is T-Gel?
, i know LN sells that new package w/ tgel, m1t, tamox, and 4ad(powder)..

Thank you.

4-ad transdermal is preferred, dermabolics 4-derm is fine. But if you realy want results and no lethargy at all, you could always go with test prop stacked with m1t.

test prop? inj? guess its an option, but i wasnt planning on going the inj. route just yet...if i was, i would prob drop the m1t, i've had several stacks recommended, just not sure if i want to go that route yet...

Ok, if you haven't done AAS yet, then you prop is not the best.

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Originally Posted by nsa

Ok, if you haven't done AAS yet, then you prop is not the best.

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I know this is the wrong forum, but since its on topic (kinda), this was recommended by a long time friend/old training partner as what he recommends for me for a first time AAS cycle
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50mg's D-bol weeks 1-4
300mg's Deca weeks 1-10
500mg's Sust weeks 3-13

Start taking the test 3 weeks after your first deca injection. Deca takes at least 3 weeks to enter your system and leave your system...it's all about timing, so by the time your done with the deca you still have 3 weeks left to take the test"

dont know if u can comment on that at all...

Best price i found for Derma 4derm was 19.99 is that the best i'll find if i decide to go that route?

The 4-ad is the best you'll find.

I don't like that cycle at all. Switch the sust for 500 mg/week of test e.

1-12 test e 500 mg/week
1-10 deca 300 mg/week
1-4 d-bol50 mg/week

Thats what i would run if i was you. But not for a first cycle. I would just run the test e for a first cycle, with d-bol for a kickstart.