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    convertion rate of 4-AD to Test

    I've read that the actual conversion rate of 4-AD to test is about 16 %. I think this is the conversion rate of 4-AD that actually gets absorbed. My question is: How much actually gets absorbed with topical 4-AD products such as 4-derm?

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    Good question. bump

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    conversion rates and absorbtion rates are different

    conversion rates for 4 ad are 15.76mg of test for every 100mg of 4ad considering your pinning with 100% absorbtion

    now transdermal is only about 65% absorbtion so if you applyied 100mg trans youd only get around 7-9 mgs of test

    if going with transdermal id suggest dmso for the highest absorbtion rate possible

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    Dmso stanks like hot nasty rotten garlicy garbage. Even at 99.9% pure. If you can stand the gag factor, you will be set. But if your lookin to impress the ladies, you may strike out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan2
    conversion rates and absorbtion rates are different

    conversion rates for 4 ad are 15.76mg of test for every 100mg of 4ad considering your pinning with 100% absorbtion

    now transdermal is only about 65% absorbtion so if you applyied 100mg trans youd only get around 7-9 mgs of test

    if going with transdermal id suggest dmso for the highest absorbtion rate possible
    good post...i didnt know it was that low with transdermals

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    ive used 99.9 % dmso that wasnt bad at all it didnt smell that bad at all i guess i got lucky didnt make my breath stink either there is another one out there that starts with a d but im not sure what it was i think you just gotta find the right brand dmso

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    could I add some 4-AD powder to my 4-derm to make it stronger or do I need to keep the concentration where it is at? Also, is 4-derm any good or do I need something that has dmso?

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    where did you find any info on the absorbtion rate of transdermals?

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    various other boards,friends,when research a fina cycle,internet has everything you need to know bro
    yeah newbie i would only add about 4 extra grams to your 4 derm though and ad very slowly 500mg to a gram at a time and wait for it to disolve until adding more
    4 derm works really well and they dont make any comercial applications with dmso but you could add the dmso to application sites after adding the 4 derm for supperior absorbtion.

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