Has anyone ever ran MOHN and 4derm together durring a cycle? I am curious because it seems that mohn takes my energy. I have only been doing it for a week at 16mg a day, 8 in the morning and 8 in the eve, along with 30 mg 5AA a day 1 hr before I go to the gym. I have some 4derm and was just wondring if anyone has ran these two cmpounds together.