4- Derm, spot sprays.

[Pump2004]

I am currently using 4 derm spray in my ph cycle and want to know if spraying on specific muscles works like spot injecting with AS or if the spray is not strong enough to apply a concentrated amount to get that kind of effect.

[justin2305]

ur suppose to spray it on ur torso (chest,abs) upper arms and thighs....thats the best place to put it...where are u spraying it right now???

[Bryan2]

Nope both do not work!

for 4ad to work it needs to be converted in the blood.

spot injecting with AS itself does not even work even with test suspension at least not for me.

[nsa]

Spot injection doesn't make your muscle bigger and stronger, it just stretches the fascicals of your muscles when you inject a water solution in a given muscle.

[Pump2004]

I use it on the chest, abs and thighs.

[nsa]

I do my shoulders and arms and some on my chest. 1 spray each shoulder, 1 spray each arm, 1 spray each pec.

[Act of God]

does it make you smell bad? I remember using DMSO and my girlfriend almost broke up with me cause she said i smelled like a "dirty olive"

[Pump2004]

smells like citrus when you first put it on but after it absorbs into the skin the smell goes away.

[FamLay]

smells great

[Red Monster]

Chicks are all over me since I started the m1t cycle with the 4derm stuff... their pussy must work on scent.

I'd doubt the stuff works on a spot basis, but I use it on my shoulders and neck and those are 2 areas of strong visual gains.

[Soldier of Misfortune]

I soak my bis delts and pecs with it. Then wipe my hands off on my abs to not waste any.

Some bros who are on injectable test (i forgot the exact ester) say that testosterone is in their sweat and they emmit it all the time and it makes chicks mega horny. Ive met a few chicks who love the smell of a guys BO. Hey, whatever gets thier jollies right?

4derm does smell like oranges sort of. Its oily too.

[ValeTudoFighter]

Don't mean to take away from the question at hand but I have an additional question. How many bottles of 4 derm do I need to go along with a 4 week cycle of m1t? Since most of you guys have used it I figured you would know off hand, thanks.

[Soldier of Misfortune]

I used it very heavily, 600mg ed. M1T faq suggested 400 but I had letro to stop aromatization. I used two full bottles with very little to spare. I have 4 more for my next cycle. Thats gonna be about 1 a week.

But if youre doin just 400 ed then youll be fine w/ 2 bottles.

[Bryan2]

They are called pheromones fellas the body actually produces these to attract the opposite sex. They are derived from sex hormones and if you give your body more then you will have an excess amount of pheromones.