unnatural cutting

**jmillerdls** · 11-12-2004, 05:17 PM

alright, if not going natural, what is the best cutting cycle (no injections).

**cb25** · 11-12-2004, 05:23 PM

diet and exercise...

i know it's the answer you don't want to hear, but that's the best you'll get. Diet is huge. Cardio is huge. If you want to cut, you have to do both.

On top of that, you can use things like ECA, clen , etc...but even they won't help you if the first two aren't on point.

**Aboot** · 11-12-2004, 05:29 PM

As always, no injections, no cycle. Clen might be an option. But as always, start in the diet forum and get your stuff organized there.

**bulldawg_28** · 11-12-2004, 05:40 PM

You can do a 4-ad and m5/m1t cycle. I agree with aboot and cb25, diet and cardio are the make or break while cutting. Good luck.

**bulldawg_28** · 11-12-2004, 05:41 PM

You can do a 4-ad and m5/m1t cycle. I agree with aboot and cb25, diet and cardio are the make or break while cutting. Good luck.

**nsa** · 11-12-2004, 08:19 PM

Diet and cardio are most important. But you don't need to inject to do a cutting cycle. ECY/ECA, clenbuterol , dnp , t3, cla, r-ala w/ biotin, acetyl-l-carnitine are all good things to use for cutting...

**jmillerdls** · 11-13-2004, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by nsa

Diet and cardio are most important. But you don't need to inject to do a cutting cycle. ECY/ECA, clenbuterol, dnp, t3, cla, r-ala w/ biotin, acetyl-l-carnitine are all good things to use for cutting...

diet and cardio will not be a problem, as i actually enjoy both (killing me to eat all this crap while bulking)...but nsa..im assuming i can find more on most of those things (uses and amounts) with further searches on this site? im heard you recommend clen before, what do you think is good with that? (and amounts)

**Ridla** · 11-13-2004, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by bulldawg_28

You can do a 4-ad and m5/m1t cycle. I agree with aboot and cb25, diet and cardio are the make or break while cutting. Good luck.

Man I would lovvve to know how this works. I have a bunch of M1T and

4-ad
Please tell me how I can cut with it.
thanks

**Psychotron** · 11-13-2004, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Ridla

Man I would lovvve to know how this works. I have a bunch of M1T and

4-ad
Please tell me how I can cut with it.
thanks

you cant

**nsa** · 11-13-2004, 11:13 AM

taurine, potassium and lots of water are needed each day while using clenbuterol .

**nsa** · 11-13-2004, 11:13 AM

IMO you can not cut with m1t...

**jmillerdls** · 11-13-2004, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by nsa

IMO you can not cut with m1t...

yeah, im using it right now to bulk...once im done with the cycle and PCT, i plan to cut with the clen ..i think anyway

**bulldawg_28** · 11-13-2004, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by nsa

IMO you can not cut with m1t...

What if its ran at a lose dose..lets say 10mg ed just to prevent catabolism. Then ran with 4-ad and letro to keep off the bloat. This along with a good diet and cardio should help you get cut. How does that sound?

**jmillerdls** · 11-13-2004, 11:20 PM

everything ive read has lead me to believe that m1t is for bulking..you are going to gain weight and water from using it...id advise using other alternatives for cutting

**Psychotron** · 11-14-2004, 09:46 AM

5mg ED of m1t is enough to cause bloating etc that i get with 20mg., or rather the water weight.

**nsa** · 11-14-2004, 11:48 AM

M1t is bad on your blood sugar levels too, so if your cutting and not eating much carbs your gonna be tired as h3ll all the time, more than normal with m1t. And you should not use m1t to keep from going catabolic, cuz when you stop using it your going to be catabolic for a few days until your test levels get back to normal.