I Need The Best "Natural" Stack Possible.... Help? (No-Xplode?)

**KBZ** · 12-17-2004, 01:15 AM

Well I'm going to try and compete this next coming spring, so I need the best natural stack to gain a little more size/strength before I cut. The competitions are "natural" so I take it I can't take any prohormones (I really should have looked into that though lol)

I'm thinking I'll try something like No-Xplode, sounds like it works. I've tried SanV12 and Swole V2 stacked with nox2 and it didn't give me what I was expecting (and that's over the recommended dosages hehe). So hopefully this No-Xplode will do the trick. What else can I stack with it? ZMA and Tribulus are a given as I take them pretty consistently, as well as whey (duh), but I may get some glutamine to stack with it, but I'm still looking for more.

Any input is GREATLY appreciated, as well as some direction to where I can find out what stuff is "natural" in a natural contest. My guess was no gear and no prohormones and you could do pretty much anything else but maybe my guess was wrong.

**KBZ** · 12-17-2004, 01:18 AM

Oh and one more thing, I was thinking I'd take No-Xplode (2 scoops) prior to workout, and then take like either Swole v2, San v12, or some type of CE2 at a different time of the day. That way I can have more creatine nourishment throughout the day but not have to use the expensive No-Xplode quite as much. " 'nah sayin' "

**Chemical King** · 12-17-2004, 05:11 AM

bump for replys on this

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 11:28 AM

These are what you need IMO:
whey protein isolate
dextrose and maltodextrin
multivitamin
R-ala w/ biotin
Creatine monohydrate if you are a creatine responder
Vitargo by nutrex if you are not a creatine responder
And possibly an amino acid stack, which amino's depends on your amino acid profile in your whey and what your goals are

**suzuki99** · 12-17-2004, 12:33 PM

why did you say vitargo if your not a creatine responder?

**man boobes** · 12-17-2004, 12:58 PM

How do you know if your a creatine responder or not?

**profbiv** · 12-17-2004, 01:07 PM

Add some slin...

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by profbiv

Add some slin...

He said natural.

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 08:55 PM

Your a creatine responder if you make gains off creatine monohydrate. If you don't make gains off creatine monohydrate, your a creatine non-responder. Most people who eat alot of red meat daily are non-responders, because they have alot of creatine in them from the red meat. Vegetarians are the most responsive to creatine supplementation.

**profbiv** · 12-17-2004, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by nsa

He said natural.

Ok my mistake in my book slin is natural lol

**stayinstacked** · 12-17-2004, 10:56 PM

if I'm not mistaken, slin cant be detected by a drug screen

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 11:25 PM

Neither can GH or IGF-1. But its still not natural, and most natural BB comps. give a lie detector test along with the drug screenings.

**profbiv** · 12-18-2004, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by nsa

Neither can GH or IGF-1. But its still not natural, and most natural BB comps. give a lie detector test along with the drug screenings.

Ahh thanks for the insight.. forgive the slin post....

**nsa** · 12-18-2004, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by profbiv

Ahh thanks for the insight.. forgive the slin post....

No worries. It's all natural to me, some people just have different feelings on the subject.

**KBZ** · 12-20-2004, 12:06 AM

Thanks for the advice so far, and yes they do polygraph test, not that I'd try and cheat if they didn't hehe

And I'm looking for a little more than just creatine, even though I am an okay responder, I don't want water retention for one and was hoping for something more possibly.

This is what I take now
Tribulus
ZMA
Multivitamin
Whey and dextrose
glucosamine and msm
vitamin c
vitamin b

Now I'll do some type of creatine and/or NO product, I'm thinking. But why not No-Xplode over conventional creatine?