m-1,4-add

**THA GONZ** · 12-29-2004, 10:04 PM

do you need to run 4ad with this stuff??

**nsa** · 12-29-2004, 10:06 PM

You should. Running m-1,4-add alone would be the same as a low dose dbol only cycle.

**THA GONZ** · 12-29-2004, 10:07 PM

I know that it converts to dbol , so could I run 1-test with it too.

**nsa** · 12-29-2004, 10:30 PM

You could run 1-test with it, but that doesn't solve your problem of hpta suppression. You should stack 4-ad or some esterified test to it. When i used m-1,4-add i used 2 bottles of s1+ and had good results.

**RedKnight** · 12-29-2004, 11:45 PM

On the same topic, nsa, I know you ran this cycle a little while ago. I was planning on running about 120mg/day of m-1,4-ad and a double dose of s1+. Do you think that I should pick up some letro? I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to have around, but I would like to save the cash if possible. Thanks

**nsa** · 12-29-2004, 11:59 PM

If money is even close to an issue i wouldn't get letro, there is not much of a chance of getting gyno from this stack. 300 mg of transdermal 4-ad ED and a very low dose of dbol is not much to cause concern about gyno.

**zedly** · 12-30-2004, 12:55 AM

Nsa,
how were your results on that stack? how much letro if any did you use? i am planning on jump starting a stack with m1,4ad/4ad/ then switching the m1,4ad to superdrol after a couple weeks.

**THA GONZ** · 12-30-2004, 08:38 AM

so could I run m-1,4-add, 1-test, 4ad, and 4oht all together and would it be worth it??

If you would get good gains off of m-1,4-add and S1+(which is 1-test and 4ad) then if you add 4oht I heard it will take care of some of the bloat associated with the m-1,4-add and maybe give alittle bit more of a solid lean gain with out all the bloat,...right??

I was thinking of running...

weeks 1-4: m-1,4-add 90mg ed
weeks 1-4:1-test 300 mg ed
weeks 1-4:4ad 400mg ed
weeks 1-4:4oht 100 mg ed
weeks 4-7:m-1,4-add 120mg ed
weeks 4-7:4oht 150mg ed

with all the liver protectants and proper pct, but what do you think about the stack altogether??

**Bryan2** · 12-30-2004, 03:41 PM

wont be getting much off of m1,4add in the first 4 weeks try bumping it up to at least 120mgs the entire time other than that it looks good

**bulldawg_28** · 12-31-2004, 03:11 PM

I'd run the 4ad from 1-7 instead of 1-4. Also why not run the m1,4dd at 120mg throughout the whole cycle?

**nsa** · 12-31-2004, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by bulldawg_28

I'd run the 4ad from 1-7 instead of 1-4. Also why not run the m1,4dd at 120mg throughout the whole cycle?

I agree, stick with same dose throughout and no reason to cut off the 4-ad at week 4.

**kstone6tb** · 01-04-2005, 08:40 PM

I thought it was not a good idea to run the 4-ad past 4 weeks? I'm just going off the directions on the back tho, haven't researched it much.

**nsa** · 01-04-2005, 08:52 PM

Well its not that bad to go past 4 weeks, most people who use AAS go 12 weeks with test as a base. Why would 4 weeks of a test precursor be a bad idea?