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    m1T stacked with 4androstenedione....

    Alright Im going to be starting a m1t cycle next week, I got my m1t, but i could not find any 4ad locally, and i am in canada so i cant order any. I did however find 4androstenedione, im planning on stacking this with m1t.

    My question is will it have the same effects as the 4ad, from my understanding it will be the same but not as potent as 4ad????

    The stuff i got is called androstack and contains

    50mg of 4androstene-3, 17 dione
    50mg of dhea
    250mg of tribulus....

    THanks

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    sorry bro but it wont work nearly as well at all onlt 5% of the dione version converts to test. And not to mention its oral so you only absorb 5% also.

    So your only getting 125mcgs of test

    there are 1000mcg in 1 mg

    your body makes around 200-250mgs of test a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darealest
    from my understanding it will be the same but not as potent as 4ad????
    Not the same at all really, like bryan said your hardly getting anything in your system with that compound and orally too, two strikes against the compound. See if you can get transdermal 4-ad or some transdermal/injectable testosterone .

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    thanks for the help guys, i have no alternative at this point....only other thing ican get is 1ad or animal stak.

    I could still return this stuff,

    Would it be better then nothing at all though?

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    I would be about the equivalent of nothing at all.

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    **** that was a waste of money

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    I thought you said you coudl return it?

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    yes hopefully i can the receipt said no refunds or exchanges on appliances. i drove out of my way to get it, and when i got there it was teh wrong stuff, so i took a chance, hopefullly i can return it....

    I guess im gonna have to do my m1t cycle without the 4ad, oh well....

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    go to nuta planet and get some penetrate or a premade trans with the 4ad already in it i think they will ship to canada but Im not sure of customs.

    Or try customnutitionwarehouse.

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    Are there any 4-AD transdermals besides 4Derm and Legal Gear's LGP?

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    Yes, and you can make your own transdermal as well. With exactly the proportions of compounds you want in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan2
    sorry bro but it wont work nearly as well at all onlt 5% of the dione version converts to test. And not to mention its oral so you only absorb 5% also.

    So your only getting 125mcgs of test

    there are 1000mcg in 1 mg

    your body makes around 200-250mgs of test a week.
    where did u get those numbers? I thought that the body produces ballpark 50-70mg per week. I am pretty certain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx***
    where did u get those numbers? I thought that the body produces ballpark 50-70mg per week. I am pretty certain...
    Your wrong.

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    the store returned that junk i got, i got more protein, started my bulking and m1t cycle today. Couldnt get 4ad but decided to go without...

    thanks for the help

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    try an eca if the lethargy gets too you too bad.

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    I would up the carb intake and try to use something to stimulate test production or test replacement before going for stimulants. Reason being the stimulants along with m1t may cause a problem with blood pressure if you have BP issues such as hypertension.

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