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    safety

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    well really its only from the clomid

    so you could run just nolv

    my 1st time with clomid i was fine then switched companies and had really bad treacers from it .

    you should at least run the nolv and trib, just cause you dont feel shut down does not mean your not .

    only blood test can tell you that.

    i still run both clomid and nolv i just run the clomid at a much lower does and only for 2 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsDeity

    my 1st time with clomid i was fine then switched companies and had really bad treacers from it .
    See I'm not as concerned with running the nolv because I stopped the 4AD early in the cycle, I handled the lethargy with no problem, so I'm not really worried about any kind of estrogen rebound since m1t doesnt aromatize. I NEED to run the clomid, however, I had a bad eye injury about 2 years ago. Since then I have had A LOT of floaters, extreme sensitivity to light, and problems seeing at night. However when I get checked out at the optometrist they say my eyes are 100% healthy nothing wrong with them, so its really unexplained. I definately dont want to do anything that could possibly worsen the existing condition.

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    m1t doesnt aromatize right but there is always the chance of estrogen rebound . anyway if your worried about the clomid you can use nolv along with tribulus @ 5mg ED to get your natural test levels up.

    if you must run the clomid you might want to do it at 50mg ED and see how you handel it .

    i run mine 100mg the 1st day and the 50 mg for 2 -3 weeks
    by day 5 the tracers are starting normaly when i 1st wake up like a little while or going from dark to light ill get them .

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    and the best advice i can offer to you is read up in the PCT forums

    theres good posts on why you need clomid and nolv , and how ppl who cannot tolerate clomid run there pct ..

    start with this one and the post by LMR
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=149139

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather
    I'm coming to the end of a 4 week, 10mg ed M1t cycle...My question is, I do not feel shutdown at all, and my boys are still a normal size. I'm most concerned with the negative side effects on the eyes, that clomid&nolva have. I do have them on hand and ready to go. Just wondering if this is absolutely nessecary and if I am in fact shutdown.
    its not that ba don clomid , with the blurry vision , i never got it while i was awake but my eyes be blurry for like 10 seconds when i would wake up , it almost felt like i was tripping , hehe !

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    you are shutdown. Judging ball size is not a tell tale sign. Nolva is less likely to produce "tracers". Try lower doses for longer periods of time, maybe 30mgs ed for 2 weeks, then 10 for another week.

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    if you want to go another route then pick up some rebound xt by designer suppliments it is a modified version of exemestane and binds better than nolva.

    Run a search on exemestane

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    Although Im not sold on aromatose inhibitors being good for your health PC (extremely low estrogen is no bueno) it is another viable option, especially with the previous peeper problems.

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    My clomid is dosed at 50mg per capsule...Maybe running that for a little while would be a better option than 300/100/50 as i had planned? Thanks for everyones input...

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    im on day two of PCT and its all good.. just a lil concerned about my nolva, there are bits of stuff in it and it just looks weird... i heard you could put it in the microwave? anyone know?

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    Shake it up bro, and dont worry about the bits, its suspended as best it can be...Dont hijack in the future bro...

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    thanks man
    btw hijack what? if you mean this thread, people always write in others threads if the question is in some way related..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beat
    im on day two of PCT and its all good.. just a lil concerned about my nolva, there are bits of stuff in it and it just looks weird... i heard you could put it in the microwave? anyone know?
    need to put in a hot water bath to let the solution go back. if its in a container that can withstand heat, heat it up in pot with water in it.

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    vent it though

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