Critique my supps

**clubbinkid** · 03-15-2004, 10:14 PM

These are what im takin during a cut down phase

what du guys reccomend on dosages

All capsules

creatine 5mg dAILY
Hmb
Glutamine
Bcaa
ala
cla
MULTIVITAMINS
omega3
flax seed oil

**the hulkster** · 03-15-2004, 10:21 PM

add some high calcium to your diet, studies are showin that calcium helps in cutting.

Whatcha gonna do....

**ross3814** · 03-15-2004, 10:56 PM

i might be wrong but isn't flax seed oil for bulking? id cut that one out bro..

**bigsd67** · 03-16-2004, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by ross3814

i might be wrong but isn't flax seed oil for bulking? id cut that one out bro..

absolutely NOT....flax oil is essential fatty acids....you need fat to burn fat...especially omega 3 fats which come from flax, fish, and other nuts and oils. i take a tablespoon or two a day and lose a pound a week. flax oil should be taken by everyone for its benefits.

**FmRommel** · 03-16-2004, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by clubbinkid

These are what im takin during a cut down phase

what du guys reccomend on dosages

All capsules

creatine 5mg dAILY
Hmb
Glutamine
Bcaa
ala
cla
MULTIVITAMINS
omega3
flax seed oil

First and foremost I wouldnt take supps like flax and creatine in cap form. Its easier and more affordable to go with powder or liquid. IMO, if you want the ALA for dealing with carbs, go with R-ALA. Personally, I would go with BCAAs, like you have and drop the glutamine, others will disagree, but thats just me. If youre gonna use CLA go with a high dose, otherwise, its just not gonna work.
Good Luck.

FM

**clubbinkid** · 03-16-2004, 07:54 AM

Can anyon give me some #'s for each so i can c what im dealing with

**eggplant** · 03-16-2004, 10:14 AM

yea heed big's advice..u need those flax..heeha..i'm utilising them right now..great results..

**daman1** · 03-16-2004, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by clubbinkid

These are what im takin during a cut down phase

what du guys reccomend on dosages

All capsules

creatine 5mg dAILY
Hmb
Glutamine
Bcaa
ala
cla
MULTIVITAMINS
omega3
flax seed oil

How's your diet?

**ross3814** · 03-16-2004, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by bigsd67

absolutely NOT....flax oil is essential fatty acids....you need fat to burn fat...especially omega 3 fats which come from flax, fish, and other nuts and oils. i take a tablespoon or two a day and lose a pound a week. flax oil should be taken by everyone for its benefits.

i wasn't trying to be an a*s. that's what i thought. i am trying to bulk and have been taking flax seed oil for the extra cals but i guess i better stop taking it cause i'll lose weight taking in an extra 260 cals a day of flax fat..

**arnold1980** · 03-17-2004, 11:07 AM

I'de go with some liquid clen and drop the creatine/

**DBarcelo** · 03-17-2004, 02:02 PM

For cutting, I would drop the creatine, because it causes water retention. I would also cut the BCAA. Your body does need the aminos the burn fat, but your body doesn't need all of the aminos, it makes the aminos that it doesn't have. And the body uses energy when it's busy trying to build amino acids. So you're causing your body to burn more energy by not supplimenting aminos. Everything else is okay..

**fritz2435** · 03-17-2004, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by ross3814

i wasn't trying to be an a*s. that's what i thought. i am trying to bulk and have been taking flax seed oil for the extra cals but i guess i better stop taking it cause i'll lose weight taking in an extra 260 cals a day of flax fat..

Why dont you cut 260 other fat cals from your diet and replace them with flax?

**groverman1** · 03-17-2004, 07:02 PM

Looks like a good base of supps. I would def switch to r-ala.

**Blown_SC** · 03-20-2004, 01:43 AM

IMO, i agree with the other bro's...drop the creatine, and keep the Flax. EFA's are very important. I'm personally looking into Clen , keep us posted. Thx.

**blaise cendrars** · 02-22-2005, 04:54 AM

Can somebody tell about the point in having flax oil (fish oil, omega3), AND linoleic plus linolenic acids which are unsaturated too and have N.3 and N.6.
I'm not saying it's useless, i'm asking into knowing.
Cheers y'all!

**prolangtum** · 02-22-2005, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by blaise cendrars

Can somebody tell about the point in having flax oil (fish oil, omega3), AND linoleic plus linolenic acids which are unsaturated too and have N.3 and N.6.
I'm not saying it's useless, i'm asking into knowing.
Cheers y'all!

pretty much spot on. Drop the flax, keep the fish oil.

**sansone** · 02-22-2005, 04:04 PM

Anyone know how pumpkin seed oil compares to flax for EFA's? I like to mix the two and put it on salad b/c pumpk oil tastes very good.

**pyschomab** · 02-22-2005, 09:20 PM

wellll just take DNP

**prolangtum** · 02-22-2005, 11:21 PM

You have a lot of excess things you just dont need and/or dont work. Heres what Id suggest:

6g Fish Oil
1 Multivitamin
5g creatine before and after workout
1-1.5g Calcium
1g Vitamin C

**dannyisaacs** · 02-24-2005, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by prolangtum

pretty much spot on. Drop the flax, keep the fish oil.

Dont see why he must drop the flax.I see no reason.explain!!!!!!

**prolangtum** · 02-24-2005, 08:35 AM

An excerpt from an article on Fish Oil at 1Fast400 .com
http://www.*************.com/?ingredients_id=19

Consuming fat sources rich in omega-3s, such as flax seed oil, may help to correct this imbalance. However, the omega-3 found in flax seed oil, alpha linolenic acid (ALA, not to be confused with alpha lipoic acid), has only limited conversion to the more important EPA and DHA, and the magnitude of its biological effects is much smaller [4]. Also, it only partially corrects the evolutionary imbalance, because a large portion of the omega-3s we consumed provided ample amounts of DHA [2]. For this reason, it is important to emphasize a diet that is high in both EPA and DHA, and one of the best ways to achieve this is supplementation with fish oil [4]. The EPA and DHA found in fish increases plasma concentrations more than from fish oil supplements, but in this case one has to eat a lot of fish on a regular basis [5], and an additional problem is that fish that are not caught in the wild tend to have lower concentrations of EPA/DHA. Fish oil supplements are also a more convenient and less expensive source of EFAs.

4. Morris DH. Methodologic challenges in designing clinical studies to measure differences in the bioequivalence of n-3 fatty acids. Mol Cell Biochem. 2003 Apr;246(1-2):83-90 [medline]

**dannyisaacs** · 02-25-2005, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by prolangtum

An excerpt from an article on Fish Oil at 1Fast400 .com
http://www.*************.com/?ingredients_id=19

Consuming fat sources rich in omega-3s, such as flax seed oil, may help to correct this imbalance. However, the omega-3 found in flax seed oil, alpha linolenic acid (ALA, not to be confused with alpha lipoic acid), has only limited conversion to the more important EPA and DHA, and the magnitude of its biological effects is much smaller [4]. Also, it only partially corrects the evolutionary imbalance, because a large portion of the omega-3s we consumed provided ample amounts of DHA [2]. For this reason, it is important to emphasize a diet that is high in both EPA and DHA, and one of the best ways to achieve this is supplementation with fish oil [4]. The EPA and DHA found in fish increases plasma concentrations more than from fish oil supplements, but in this case one has to eat a lot of fish on a regular basis [5], and an additional problem is that fish that are not caught in the wild tend to have lower concentrations of EPA/DHA. Fish oil supplements are also a more convenient and less expensive source of EFAs.

4. Morris DH. Methodologic challenges in designing clinical studies to measure differences in the bioequivalence of n-3 fatty acids. Mol Cell Biochem. 2003 Apr;246(1-2):83-90 [medline]

Thanks learnt something new!!

**RONINASAUNA** · 02-25-2005, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by prolangtum

pretty much spot on. Drop the flax, keep the fish oil.

So what about using "Udo's Choice" Oil Blend?

Seems to have the perfect ratio of Omega 3,6,9 no?

Is Fish oil supplementation still better than Udo's oil?

**prolangtum** · 02-25-2005, 11:30 AM

most people do not need to supplement 6's and 9's. 3's are the only deficient ones in most.

**RONINASAUNA** · 02-25-2005, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by prolangtum

most people do not need to supplement 6's and 9's. 3's are the only deficient ones in most.

much appreciated, thanks!
Just trying to understand and also figure out if I should replace my Udo's Blend with regualr Fish oil.

Great info!

**playa4933** · 03-02-2005, 11:13 PM

**** i just went out and bought flax. Oh well it was cheep. Heres my supps right now.
vitamin c - 250mg
vitamin b6 - 100 mg
creatine
whey protein
multivitamin
flax - 1 gram
vitamin b12 oral
camphibolic
Should i get some fish oil to go along with it, any ideas?

**prolangtum** · 03-03-2005, 12:11 AM

Looks pretty solid. Fish oil is usually recomended @ 6 caos a day, totaling 1.5g total epa/dha. If you have extra cash, maybe grab some fish oil, and take 3 caps, and supplement with flax as well. Then when the flax runs out, up the fish oil to 6 caps.