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    So many darn protiens out There.. HELP

    Sup guys quick question... I would like to have info on what's a good protien shake pre and post workout... I usually take in Simple carb drink post workout, I drink immidiately after I work out... Then about 30 to 45 minutes later i intake good source of protien food (TUna, etc...) So that's cool but what is a good drink to take pre??? SHould it have dextrose or maltodextrin in it?, I have a huge bucket of Dextrose here so i do'nt know what to use it with. I'm asking because i pretty much have my meals set, I just need to know what's a good Protien shake to buy, something that has L-Glutamine(for anti-catabolic help), Dextrose/Maltodextrin (Glycogen help during and post workout), I know my post post workout drink should have some type of omega 3's for the slow intake of protien. Please help

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    Omega 3s do NOT slow down protein absobtion for already liquid material ONLY solid foods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SplinterCell
    agreed, just ordered another 10lbs of strawberry. add in 1/2 cup of dex for pwo and it tastes like candy.the powder is light and fluffy not dense like some others. mixes easily and tastes good even w/o dex. I add splenda sometimes to if its not a pwo shake.

    I also just ordered from trueprotein.com for night time whey and egg white protein. i'll let you guys know how that is too.

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    I still can't find anything better tasting than Dymatize's Elite - Caffe Mocha and their Chocolate Mint. Awesome stuff!

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    you shouldnt have any fat in a pwo meal or drink

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    ^ is this an opinion that you shouldn't have any fat in pwo meal or drink?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ******888
    you shouldnt have any fat in a pwo meal or drink
    In the scheme of things it wont make a difference.

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    40 to 50 g. whey isolate with 75 g of dextrose or maltodextrin... pref. 25 g dex and 50 g maltodextrin post workout... eat whole food (big meal) 2 hours pre workout with about 40 g protein from a meat source...

    whole food is much better than shakes any time of the day besides postworkout

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    protein

    I take Nirto tech, vanilla, it works great, and tastes even better

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScreaM
    I take Nirto tech, vanilla, it works great, and tastes even better
    dont take offense to this but when some says something like a prtein works great its funny. i find it awful hard to attribute whats working to 1 product out of the 10 things I am on including diet, sleep and exercise. you know what i am saying. when you say it works what does it do that some other proteins didnt do??

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatRite
    40 to 50 g. whey isolate with 75 g of dextrose or maltodextrin... pref. 25 g dex and 50 g maltodextrin post workout... eat whole food (big meal) 2 hours pre workout with about 40 g protein from a meat source...

    whole food is much better than shakes any time of the day besides postworkout

    Ok so 40-50g whey isolate protien with 75g of dextrose PRE WORKOUT????
    and 25g dextrose with 50g of maltodextrin for post???

    I got everything else, please confirm that i have that right

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    acually, thats a great question! lol Well, for me, I cant compare it to ne thing else, but for what I wanted/needed, it got the job done, and tasted good at the same time, so, for me, its great!

    Peace

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    I always thought your supposed to have your 50g of protien and 60+g of Dextrose POST work out.... I purchased Zero Carb Isopure protien, it has 50g of protien.. SO what should i DO??

    take 50g protien with 75g Dextorse PRE WORKOUT??
    and No protien after my workout??? Seems kind of funny.. Or do i save the protien for my PPO meal?? Like chicken breast or tuna MEAL???

    Please confirm because i'm about to go to the gym now

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    no im pretty shure they mean, have 50 grams of protein with the isopure and 100 grams of carbs with dextrose or maltodextrin. PWO of course.

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    ok cool, when i come back after my workout i'm going to have 50g pro, 75g(100 to sweet) dextrose, then 2 hours later high protien meal...

    Pre workout, do i need to take anything or just eat high protien meals?.. i workout in the after noon... well when i wake up

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    Pro Complex by ON is awesome IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billmister
    ok cool, when i come back after my workout i'm going to have 50g pro, 75g(100 to sweet) dextrose, then 2 hours later high protien meal...

    Pre workout, do i need to take anything or just eat high protien meals?.. i workout in the after noon... well when i wake up
    Drop the protein to 40 grams and up the dextrose to 80 grams. Pre-WO i would eat a carb/protein meal.

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    ok sounds good... thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Mike
    dont take offense to this but when some says something like a prtein works great its funny. i find it awful hard to attribute whats working to 1 product out of the 10 things I am on including diet, sleep and exercise. you know what i am saying. when you say it works what does it do that some other proteins didnt do??
    yea i also hate when people talk about how they are gonna get ON some protein! I'm like yea i cycled protein for a couple weeks and i blew up man!

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    get some on's for the day, and another protein with casein for night time

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    Basicly whey protein is a quick acting protein and stays active in the system for 2-3 hours, and caseinate protein is the long lasting protein better used for bed time to prevent catabolism

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVAGO
    Basicly whey protein is a quick acting protein and stays active in the system for 2-3 hours, and caseinate protein is the long lasting protein better used for bed time to prevent catabolism
    correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle187
    correct

    OK so do i get a sticker now? J/K

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    sure do u want a smiley face or a star?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle187
    sure do u want a smiley face or a star?


    ooooh spoilt for choice can i have a smiley star?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVAGO
    ooooh spoilt for choice can i have a smiley star?
    sure thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVAGO
    Basicly whey protein is a quick acting protein and stays active in the system for 2-3 hours, and caseinate protein is the long lasting protein better used for bed time to prevent catabolism
    You don't want just casein before bed. You want a mixture of proteins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    You don't want just casein before bed. You want a mixture of proteins.


    Plz explain....

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    If you use just casein, you will be catabolic before it kicks in. It takes time to start being absorbed, which is why it lasts longer. But in the mean time you have no protein being absorbed. This is why you want a mixture of proteins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    If you use just casein, you will be catabolic before it kicks in. It takes time to start being absorbed, which is why it lasts longer. But in the mean time you have no protein being absorbed. This is why you want a mixture of proteins.

    Understood just it sounded confusing, saying proteins. in other words a whey+casin b4 bed

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    I personally would use 3 proteins before bed. Whey isolate, egg white protein, micellar casein. That should work well and keep your body absorbing protein from bed time til the casein runs out.

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    here is the formula i use. trueprotein.com

    30% Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration
    20% Calcium Caseinate
    20% Micellar Casein
    15% Milk Protein Isolate
    10% Egg White Protein
    5% Hydrolyzed Casein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Mike
    here is the formula i use. trueprotein.com

    30% Whey Protein Isolate Microfiltration
    20% Calcium Caseinate
    20% Micellar Casein
    15% Milk Protein Isolate
    10% Egg White Protein
    5% Hydrolyzed Casein
    That must taste pretty rough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    That must taste pretty rough.
    not even a little. tastes 100% better than nitrotech nighttime. I like the taste but i got it with their special flavoring system.

    you know what tastes like puke is the 100% egg white protein. so sweet and watery consistency.

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    Yeah, you have to get the BSL flavor system. The regular flavors are way too bland.

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    That adds alot to the price though, especially with aminogen and the vit/min complex.

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    you have hooked me up right twice now on protein. I dont think i'll try anythign else for a while. I take the allthewhey as pwo and it tastes like a milkshake with the dextrose. and i take the trueprotein b4 bed and if i cant get eggs cooked in the morning i take the 100% whites shake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsa
    That adds alot to the price though, especially with aminogen and the vit/min complex.
    i didnt add the aminogen and vitamin. it does have aminos standard correct??

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    Who hooked you up? Me?

    Any protein is going to have aminos in it, so yes.

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