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    Legal Gear 4ad LGP

    Ok this is the transdermal product by legal gear.

    One serving contains


    17a-methyl-4-androstene-3,17b-diol 16.6mg
    4-Androstene-4,17b-ol-3-one 16.6mg
    4-androstene-3,17b-diol 50 mg


    ok i used this during my last m1t cycle at 2 servings a day, along with 200mg of oral 4ad and 20mg of m1t. Worked great as far as no letharghy.

    My question is.... since this is a 17a
    is it liver toxic. I remember asking how much methyl-4ad is required for good results and i was told 180 mg but that was to liver toxic.

    Want to run m-dione at 15-20mg a day this summer along with 1ad and methyl 4ad but i dont have enough methyl 4ad gels. So can i add this with my methyl 4ad gels to add to the the effictiveness or will it be to liver toxic.

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    orals arent necassarily "toxic" but they can make your liver work harder. Add it, it will work fine, although I never understood the logic of putting a methyl in a transdermal formula. You will actually lose some bioavailability over taking it orally.

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    so it is harder on your liver than regualar 4 derm, but not to the point where its gonna put you in a state of liver failure if you only take it for like say 4 weeks.

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    No, If you would like to add some protection to the liver use Milk thisle or NAC.

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    Hows this look for my late summer cycle

    Week 1-4 Methyl D 15mg
    Week 1-5 1-AD 500mg
    Week 1-5 4ad LGP 5 servings ( see above)

    PCT Weeks 6-10

    Would i have to worry about progesterone gyno? If so what should i take 10mg nolva EOD during cycle. No esterogen=no progesterone right?

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    The Legal Gear product may aromatize a bit, it would be prudent to have nolvadex on hand.

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    bump

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    cycle looks solid as far as gains go it should be a nice bulker

    keep an eye on the lethargy and add more 4ad if needed but other than that its cool.

    You should just take 10mg ed of nolva it will keep things at bay you probably wont need it but its cheap enough to just use ed.

    another precautionary thing would be to add vitamin b6 at 100-200mg ed and it will keep the prolactin down so no progesterone gyno either.

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    thanks bryan. I think im gonna hit a 3 week cycle of m1t in about 3 weeks. Then run that cycle last 5 weeks of the summer.

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