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    1-AD - any additional feedback?

    I have read all the posts out there about this stuff. I can get randomly tested at work so I would like to try something over the counter. Has anyone tried this stuff recently and have any opinions???

    I have read all the cons and appreciate those comments, but I am looking for anyone who has honestly given this stuff a chance.

    What type of gains did you see (weight/strength)?

    Any sides from DHT conversion?

    When you stopped did you keep the gains?

    If price were not an issue would you do it again?

    What dose did you take, at what times during the day?

    How soon did you notice any benefits or sides?

    Thanks for your input. I see now that the price is comming down a little. Found it for $39. Was $59 the last time I looked at it.

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    i'm taking it with Mag-10 and i'm 1 week in and I am pretty happy so far. I'll let you know more soon.

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    I started a cycle of 1-AD (by itself) about 4 weeks ago...so far i've noticed a significant increase in strength and gained about 6 lbs...however, some of this could be due to a decrease in drinking and party life since i've been taking it..no side effects at all, except a decrease in sex drive, although im still interested when it counts I still have 2 weeks to go, thus im not sure if ill keep my gains or not. Ill let you know in a few more weeks how the whole deal ended up. Its expensive, but i think it was worth it just to motivate me and keep me from drinking. I took 3 the first 2 weeks and 4 a day after that. I dont see the need for any more than that. Anyway, hope this helps. Good luck with your decision.

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    Thanks for you input. Please, I would like to hear from some more people.

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    (From what I have read, 1-test is the way to go. Because 1 ad converts to 1 test) imho

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    That's what I hear also, Gaspari Nutrition has 1-Test. I just happen to get 1-AD for very cheap.

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    Thanks..I ordered 3 bottles of the 1 AD today, gonna give it a whirl before memorial day at the beach. What the heck. I keep some detailed logs on my workouts so I will post my results after about 6 weeks. I know from KunipshunFit that he had some good strength gains, others posted 6-10lbs of weight gain. Wil let you know if it was a waste of $ for me or not.

    I know Nightop was interested in 1AD and 1-Test as well. Too bad other things are illegal and bad for my employment.

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    ScottyP999- Definitely keep us updated bro, i am curious to see how i've come out from this stuff as compared to others. I'll keep you posted as my last few weeks conclude. Thanks!

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    The best results from Ergohparm's 1-AD are associated with doseages at 900mg per day. That is 3 pills (100mg each) 3 times a day. Best if used no more than 6 hours apart for each doseage, I prefer 4-5 myself. If you do not use 1-AD in these concentrations then you are selling yourself short. Yeah, you can count on going through a bottle every 6 days but I assure you there is a difference. 1-AD or 1-Androstenediol converts to 1-test so by cheating yourself and not getting the 900mg/daily you are losing more product though conversion. The first time I experimented with 1-AD I gained almost 7 pounds in the first two weeks. You have to eat clean, drink ample amounts of water, and train hard with 1-AD to see the reuslts. If anyone has any questions regarding doseages etc. feel free to ask. I will try to keep you guys posted with my progress, I just started running 1-AD 900mg daily with 300mg daily of 3-alpha for my final cutting phase. Take care and cheers bros.

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    i used 900 mg a day and noticed increased hardness in my muscles , strength gain, and better endurance, i also upped my calories and my workout to take advantage of 1-ad, patrick arnold the inventor posts on misc.fitness.weights on usenet very often and is pretty open with advice

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    Good post NightOP, I think a good point you mentioned was the doseage. I should have mentioned that everyone is different and so is everyones tolerance levels. I seem to respond well to higher doses- for gods sake I take in more than 1 gram of ph's a day. I think a good point is to be careful and aware, experimenting with doseages can be dangerous but that is how I measured my tolerance. Take care everyone
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    ad-1 or Nor-diol/4-diol ?
    I have a question about this stack I want to take, vs. stack #5 When you say twice aday
    is that 750 mg twice, or 750 mg split in to equal servings for breakfast and
    workout? Same question with the Nor-diol. Also what specific prouduct for
    each do you suggest meaning best quaility and serving size. what ZMA
    product do you suggest as well? Should I add anything to this like a
    anti-estergin or Tribulus terrestris?
    I am 22 5 9" and 195 with 12- 13% and have been working out for 4 years of
    college and some in high school. I have never juiced but have
    used creatine and gluamine and tried "poppers" from pinnacle.
    If you suggest another stack just tell me.



    Stack #2 - Cycle for good gains.

    Week 1-2 take 750 mg of 4-diol and 250 mg of Nor-diol
    Week 3-5 take 500 mg of 4-diol and 500 mg of Nor-diol
    Week 6-7 take 250 mg of 4-diol and 750 mg of Nor-diol

    Split stack up in two doses, take one after breakfast, the other 45-30 mins
    before a workout in weeks 1-2, 60 mins before in weeks 3-5 and 90 mins
    before workout weeks 6-7.

    My product choice is based on anabolic properties. I selected the two best
    compounds. They are both using the same conversion enzyme and could compete
    at an increase of dosage. So I used a teeter-stack where one product
    decreases in favor of the other, thereby keeping the overall amount the same
    from week to week. But I also manage to bring endogenous testosterone down,
    allowing the body to feel the decrease without dropping hormone levels. When
    coming off a stack this will illicit a greater response in getting natural
    test back on track without compromising the amount of gains made. I had a
    practical problem in that the 4-diol peaks after 30-45 minutes and the
    Nor-diol after 90 minutes, so the pre-workout administration had to move
    along with it, shifting it back as the Nor-diol compounds became more
    prevalent in the stack. Keep in mind that both compounds are fairly
    suppressive of HPTA, so that using ZMA coming off a cycle is advised here.


    Stack #5 (1AD and Nor-diol, 4-AD)

    This is a hypothetical stack based on what I know of 1AD. Like I said, I'm trying it at the end of summer and will report back with detailed results, the good and the bad and the terrifyingly ugly (let's hope there is none of that) on just how useful 1AD really is. Here are two variations of a stack:

    Week 1-6 600 mg of 1AD and 600 mg of 4AD

    Take in 3 evenly spread doses of 200 mg of each product throughout the day.

    This is a dose that allows you to see decent benefits off of 1AD without putting you straight in the poor house. In this instance it's a 6-week iso-stack, using 4AD as the counterpart. Because of the moderate dose and the daily spread you can get a lot out of the 4AD too. This is a very androgenic stack and should under no circumstances be taken by women. The 4AD makes a good partner for 1AD because it enhances the androgenic effect and it repairs a loss of libido that may come with the use of 1AD. Not to mention that these are possibly two of the most anabolic legal substances available today.

    Week 1-2 900 mg of 1AD with 300 mg of Nor-diol
    Week 3-4 600 mg of 1AD with 600 mg of Nor-diol
    Week 5-6 600 mg of 1AD with 300 mg of Nor-diol

    Take half the Nor-diol after breakfast and half after dinner, take 1AD spread over 3 even daily doses.

    This is a tad more expensive. Ok, a lot more expensive. But this epitomizes a great stack. It's commonly believed that drugs with the effect of 1AD should be stacked with a non-androgen. And the most potent non-androgen is Nor-diol. It's a bit of a combination between a ski-slope and a teeter stack that should give great results for the small amount of time you are on it.

    Normally I would recommend the use of 19Nor so there is no over saturation of the 3-beta enzyme that could compromise the conversion of the 1AD. But with the cost of 1AD I sincerely doubt that anyone can afford to take enough (or would want to) to saturate the enzymes.

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    Well to hell with this, I should have bought 1-Test instead of my eight bottles of 1-AD since it converts to 1-test, ahh!!! Okay, tension breaker there. I'm planning on using the 1-AD I have along with 4-AD, 5-AD (estrogen makes you blow up like a baloon) and MAG-10 here in the next year. This will be my first prohormone cycle and I cant wait to see the results of it.

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    I can get randomly tested at work so I would like to try something over the counter. [/QUOTE]

    Just be carefull still. I read that some 1-ad manufacturers actually put testosterone in the stuff. 1-ad is a suppliment and they don't have to do a lot of things that the FDA requires, so they were sneaking actaul test into the product. If they did it just for the begining just to get people hooked on the results, that may be why the price is comming down now, I really don't know.

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    I noticed a loss of sex drive and libido after 1-ad. Anyone know of any good
    supplements to get that pecker power back?! Thank u All

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    Horny Goat weed...lots of it...Milk Thistle have all helped me
    Quote Originally Posted by repeatoffender
    I noticed a loss of sex drive and libido after 1-ad. Anyone know of any good
    supplements to get that pecker power back?! Thank u All

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