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    E/C without the A

    i can get 200mg caffiene tablets and 8mg ephedrine tablets....what kind of doses should i take for both and for how long...what do i need to safeguard against the side effects...and will creatine be enough to prevent any muscle loss?...i have read that the aspirin is not necessary.

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    about 200 mg of caffeine and 25 mg of ephedrine for each dose, 2 or 3 times ED. Creatine won't do much good if your using caffeine. Just take in alot of protein to prevent catabolism.

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    200mg caffiene, 25mg ephedrine... in your case, 3 tabs is 24mg, so that should be fine.

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    yup...i was thinking that about the creatine...the caffiene and creatine would negate each other...so if i wanted to take caffiene, i should dump the creatine and eat lots of protein to prevent muscle loss...how long can the caffiene and ephedrine be taken 4?...what kind of side effects am i looking at?

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    The creatine won't negate the caffeine, the caffeine will diminish the effects of creatine though. Ya get it?

    I would say take it for 4 weeks then use something else for a month then go back to EC if you want. Common sides would be increased blood pressure, increased body temp and jitters.

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    thanks nsa...i get the creatine/caffiene part...i been contemplating between clen , e/c and sesathin/lean extreme...i been doing my research on all three to see which one suits me the best...everyone has been quite helpful...clen seems to be a little harsh so its between the e/c and sesathin/lean extreme...u've pointed out that the creatine wont work well with the caffiene so i think i'm a go with the sesathin and lean extreme and see how it works for me...hopefully that wont effect the gains off the bulk cee i'm currently taking...is 4-6 weeks a good period for taking the seathin/lean extreme?

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    That seems to be the one with the least sides, it could be run for a long time. Sesathin can be run year round, not sure about the lean xtreme but it doesn't seem like it would have any down-regulating problems or anything. Just might become hard to notice and changes after a while.

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