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    Tongkat and trib

    Anybody taking these two together and at what doses...?

    I am currently taking Optimum tribulus and have some Bulk nutrition Long Jack powder (100:1).

    Long Jack is basically Tongkat Ali as I understand it. What doses are you guys taking these at....?

    And what feedback do you have on these products...?

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    What about avena sativa...?

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    taking long jack a 1:100 extract at 400mg
    and tribulus (capped myself) at 1250mg (roundabout)

    since u mentioned u r using optimum nutrition trib , i was taking 4x625mg caps of that a day to get the effect i get of the self capped trib i have , u need to make sure u r using somethign close to 20% protodioscin content for any trib to give u results of any kind . hope that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatchblack
    Anybody taking these two together and at what doses...?

    I am currently taking Optimum tribulus and have some Bulk nutrition Long Jack powder (100:1).

    Long Jack is basically Tongkat Ali as I understand it. What doses are you guys taking these at....?

    And what feedback do you have on these products...?
    I hate to be the one to give you bad news but ON's trib had no active saponins and protodiscins. That lab test can be found at MHP or Nutrex website. I can't remember which. Anyways I use Tribesterone 1500 and thier longjack which has 1500mg per serving. Thats the highest I've ever seen in a product. Anyways I use it PCT and can honestly say that it works just as good as hcg /clomid. I think the key is to find which product actually contains a therapuetic dose of the stuff and you'll see results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turanabol
    I hate to be the one to give you bad news but ON's trib had no active saponins and protodiscins. That lab test can be found at MHP or Nutrex website. I can't remember which. Anyways I use Tribesterone 1500 and thier longjack which has 1500mg per serving. Thats the highest I've ever seen in a product. Anyways I use it PCT and can honestly say that it works just as good as hcg/clomid. I think the key is to find which product actually contains a therapuetic dose of the stuff and you'll see results.
    yep i have learned from trial n error , there are only a few products that really have the real stuff in them ................. and i think this is the best place to ASK as most of us have gone through being broke and experimentation .......... welcome to AR !

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    Quote Originally Posted by turanabol
    I hate to be the one to give you bad news but ON's trib had no active saponins and protodiscins. That lab test can be found at MHP or Nutrex website. I can't remember which. Anyways I use Tribesterone 1500 and thier longjack which has 1500mg per serving. Thats the highest I've ever seen in a product. Anyways I use it PCT and can honestly say that it works just as good as hcg/clomid. I think the key is to find which product actually contains a therapuetic dose of the stuff and you'll see results.
    Have you guys ever used Bulk Nutritions stuff....?

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    anybody used avena sativa and what are the PCT style doses of those three compounds....?

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    Yes I used BN... I used there trib, avena sativa, and long jack.. I use them all in combo at low doses.. Not sure whats doing what, but its pretty good stuff.. It tastes nasty, but I just mix them all in a shot of milk and stir it.. Then just take the shot.. Got use to it, no big deal anymore.. I think its very good to take along with PCT, though I havent cycled in almost 2 years..

    Oh, BTW... I take a dose like once every 2-3days.. is that bad?? Do I need to stay on it? Sometimes I take 2-3 doses a day... But when I take a few days or a week off, I can feel the effect when I take a dose.. Is this the wrong way to take it?? Its like now I just take a dose when my GF comes over...

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