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    Phera-Plex the replacement for Superdrol

    Well as many of you are disappointed that Superdrol is being discontinued I felt that there has to be something to replace it. So I emailed Anabolic Xtreme the makers of Superdrol and received an email stating that Phera-Plex is better. Now anyone can say anything for sales, but has anyone tried this? Here is the email I received today.



    Yes we do now. Phera-Plex will provide much better gains than
    Superdrol. It is far Superior.
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    phera plex is good stuff but it is highly androgenic

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    Supposed to be more like Ergomax....not superdrol. I haven't heard too much feedback about it though.

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    Phea-Plex is not a replacement, they are different compunds. PP is about 2.5X more anabolic than SD and about 9X more Androgenic . The androgenic sides should be much more prevelant with PP. But still it is a very solid compound. Very similar to ErgoMax which people seem to be very happy with.

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    so what androgenic characteristics will people see on pp?

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    Enlarged Prostate, Acne, Hairloss, Aggression, those are the typical sides of highly Androgenic compounds.

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    thanks giantz11

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    Has anyone experienced the increased libido from Phera Plex?

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    Yeah I wouldn't say it's a replacement, but there have been some not responding so well to SD that have done very well with PP, such as myself. In fact when I first gave SD a go, I was told that in fact PP or Ergo may be better for me. In terms of androgenic sides, I have got some pimples, but not more than I did with SD, no hairloss, but I have noticed more agression actually.

    In terms of libido, just as good as with SD

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik
    Yeah I wouldn't say it's a replacement, but there have been some not responding so well to SD that have done very well with PP, such as myself. In fact when I first gave SD a go, I was told that in fact PP or Ergo may be better for me. In terms of androgenic sides, I have got some pimples, but not more than I did with SD, no hairloss, but I have noticed more agression actually.

    In terms of libido, just as good as with SD
    Is it a subtle difference in libido or a dramatic one?

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    Dramatic? hmmmm, i don't know about that, but I find myself thinking about it a lot more, wake up with a woody every morning, loads are bigger (already huge but hey i'll take the extra), and get quite excited seeing all the girls in town where i work

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik
    Dramatic? hmmmm, i don't know about that, but I find myself thinking about it a lot more, wake up with a woody every morning, loads are bigger (already huge but hey i'll take the extra), and get quite excited seeing all the girls in town where i work
    Thanks. It doesn't sound like the libidio change is as drastic as the 4AD I took years ago. My girlfriend was a very tired woman, to say the least.

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    PP and ErgoMax both have the same active ingredient but the ratios of isomers in each is different. There are 2 positional isomers (2-ene and 3-ene) aswell as two stereoisomers (5a and 5b).

    The potency of each is as follows:
    5a-2-ene > 5b-2-ene > 5a-3-ene > 5b-3-ene

    PP is supposedly 100% 5a-2-ene while Ergo is something like a 7:2 mix of 5a-2-ene:5b-2-ene. Ergo also contains an undetermined amount of the 3-ene stereoisomers

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    So what would be a better idea for a AR member, stocking up on superdrol, or using phera plex instead?

    It looks alot stronger. I have been toying around with the idea of running another prohormone cycle. (Last one was 1test & 4ad back in 2002 or 2003)
    I don't want to miss out. I was waiting for a product that was supposed to be way better than 1ad, but it was a flop... and I missed out on a 1ad cycle.

    Anybody run both? Are the sides of phrea plex worth it because it's gains are alot more drastic than superdrol?

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    I thinking of running Phera Plex at 30mg ED for 4 weeks. How long would a typical PCT be for a Phera Plex - only cycle? I know you run PCT until fully recovered but I was just looking for general suggestions. I'm thinking 100mg Clomid, 20mg Nolva, and 0.25mg Arimidex for 1-2 weeks.

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    I would go 3 to be safe man.

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    Do 4 weeks for PCT just as u wold for SD. Again Papi, I suggest that 30mg for 4 weeks will be a waste of money. So far I put on more weight in my first 2 weeks doing 20mg. Anyways, up to u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik
    Do 4 weeks for PCT just as u wold for SD. Again Papi, I suggest that 30mg for 4 weeks will be a waste of money. So far I put on more weight in my first 2 weeks doing 20mg. Anyways, up to u.
    I'll go with the 20mg. It will save me some money . What did your PCT look like?
    Last edited by Papi93; 12-24-2005 at 08:09 PM.

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    10,20,20,30 would be good i think...at least, that's what I'll be trying the next time

    as to PCT, i thnk i mentioned it in the other PP thread....T-Drive, PowerFULL, and Crethyl Thunder

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    I would go 3 to be safe man.
    How suppressive your Max LMG cycle? Any noticeable testicular atrophy?

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    Noticable, yes. Significant, no. I did stay on the HotTer and tongkat for a good 4-5 weeks though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik
    10,20,20,30 would be good i think...at least, that's what I'll be trying the next time

    as to PCT, i thnk i mentioned it in the other PP thread....T-Drive, PowerFULL, and Crethyl Thunder
    What would be the most phera plex cycles you would run in one year?

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    I've actually asked this exact question myself...the advice I got was that to be on the safe side, roughly 3 per year of whether it be PP or SD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik
    I've actually asked this exact question myself...the advice I got was that to be on the safe side, roughly 3 per year of whether it be PP or SD.
    Without blood work being done, I have read that four was the tops.

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    4's prob fine...I've done 1 SD, now 1 PP, so I guess i could do 1 more with PP and one PP/SD combined...all lading to some fantastic gains...but I'll prob err on the side of caution and just do 1 more within the 12 month period

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik
    4's prob fine...I've done 1 SD, now 1 PP, so I guess i could do 1 more with PP and one PP/SD combined...all lading to some fantastic gains...but I'll prob err on the side of caution and just do 1 more within the 12 month period
    Do you use any other pro-hormones or steroids during the year?

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    me? nah. Stuff like PP ad SD is as far as I will go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik
    me? nah. Stuff like PP ad SD is as far as I will go.
    I don't remember if you commented on this but have you used any M1T in the past? If so, how does it compare to the phera plex?

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    sorry bud, but never tried the stuff....PP and SD are the most hard core stuff I've ever used and will use

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik
    sorry bud, but never tried the stuff....PP and SD are the most hard core stuff I've ever used and will use
    I've used 4AD back when it was legal. It was a transdermal spray on version. I took one gram a day and had excellent results. 1AD did nada for me .

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    andro products r crap imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    andro products r crap imo
    4AD was the shit. I ran with 1g ED. Bryan, supplement guru, said it's comparable to test prop at 50mg ED.

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    yup, saw that up there. Never tried 1AD or 4AD actually. Just tried things w/ andro in them. I was young as hell when I did them, wont even mention my age. I doubt they would have worked even if I tried them out now. Did Animal Stak and P6. P6 had mostly iol's in it which seemed to be more effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    4AD was the shit. I ran with 1g ED. Bryan, supplement guru, said it's comparable to test prop at 50mg ED.

    yup you basically have the exact same amount of test in your system as you would runnin tesp P

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    Phrea Plex seems to be alot more effective than superdrol. I'm pretty excited about this product. Can't wait for a PP log. I think in the new year, I might run a cycle. This is sounding very appe****g. It sure took the suppliment companies to come up with something as effective as the good ol prohormones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    yup, saw that up there. Never tried 1AD or 4AD actually. Just tried things w/ andro in them. I was young as hell when I did them, wont even mention my age. I doubt they would have worked even if I tried them out now. Did Animal Stak and P6. P6 had mostly iol's in it which seemed to be more effective.
    What's P6? What, also, is iol's?

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    P6 was put out as a blend of PHs by cellucor it was alright but didnt have enough one 1 PH to be cost effective

    iols meaning the diol version of the PHs first were diones which converted to the target hormone at a lower rate then the diols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan2
    P6 was put out as a blend of PHs by cellucor it was alright but didnt have enough one 1 PH to be cost effective

    iols meaning the diol version of the PHs first were diones which converted to the target hormone at a lower rate then the diols.
    Thanks Bryan. What dosage would you run Phera Plex at? One member said anything above 20mg is a waste and another said stay with 30mg.

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    play around with the dose try 20 for a while and ramp up if you feel needed but realistically you shouldnt need to go up to 30mg as 20mg will still give you great gains.

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    hey Bryan I suggested, based on the reviews I've seen and my own current usage, to do 10,20,20,30 or something similar, what do u think?

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