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    Question Best test booster on the market??

    Im reading and researching for the closest to best OTC test booster or enhancer so heres a bit of a poll or just reply with the BRAND NAME and your experience with it, or even some hype you've heard!!! Im even interested to hear your opinion on what you bros may believe is good thats out there!

    I tried BSN's axis-II and it sucked plain and simple. I was checking out "legal gears" products for test boosting, and "SUPERDROL". BUT WAY TOO EXPENSIVE!

    So basicaly im lookin for the raining #1 test booster/enhancer and the people who have tried them and can share there experience, opinions, and WHAT BRAND they used!

    Thanks in advance to all you bros out there who reply!!!
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    Nutrex research - Vitrix tribulus. 80% saponins

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    www.trueprotein.com They have powdered tribulus. All you have to do is buy yourself a capsule maker.. i got mine and 1000 caps for $19. Its real high quality stuff i've heard its between 70% to 90% saponins. and you get 100grams for $18... just so you know thats alot.. i just capped some tribulus with 30grams and i made 72 well packed caps... so reason to believe you should be able to get almost 200 strong tribulus caps for $18.. plus your capper, but well worth the money

    http://66.63.171.49/store/comersus_l...?idCategory=25

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    i heard Viraloid was pretty good got a couple buds useing it right now and they like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTheBuckeT21
    www.trueprotein.com They have powdered tribulus. All you have to do is buy yourself a capsule maker.. i got mine and 1000 caps for $19. Its real high quality stuff i've heard its between 70% to 90% saponins. and you get 100grams for $18... just so you know thats alot.. i just capped some tribulus with 30grams and i made 72 well packed caps... so reason to believe you should be able to get almost 200 strong tribulus caps for $18.. plus your capper, but well worth the money

    http://66.63.171.49/store/comersus_l...?idCategory=25
    sweet the last I had heard they stoped carying trib powder. I hate buying the vitrix b/c it's so expensive. you just saved me lots of $ thank you

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    welcome

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    Tongkat Ali is the best test booster I know of.

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    Question

    Quote Originally Posted by DBarcelo
    Tongkat Ali is the best test booster I know of.
    Where the hell did u get that and what is it exactly?

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    ^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by FREAKZILLLA
    Where the hell did u get that and what is it exactly?
    It's a root extract. You can get it anyplace. GNC, Vitamin Shoppe, internet, etc.

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    i have heard good things about fenotest by scivation

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    tongkat is by for the strongest i've tried. takes a little longer to kick in, but it blows trib away

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    Question Tongkat

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    tongkat is by for the strongest i've tried. takes a little longer to kick in, but it blows trib away
    Where can i purchase exactly this OTC supplement/herb?

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    I just took 6OXO and liked it.

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    To find tongkat ali, just do a google search. Next to buying the raw powder and capping it yourself, I've heard LJ100 is one of the better types to buy.

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    Exclamation Axis-II

    I went ahead and bought BSN's AXIS-II test booster and am stacking it with BSN's Nitrix Oxide booster as well. I'll keep an update on how it all works out. If i get noticable results then i will add in BSN's Cell-Max and there NO_ Xplode!!!

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    Since its legal I will mention I got my Longjack (Tongkat Ali) from CircleCityMarket. 50:1 extract. Good stuff. Been on it 1 week. I'll keep you updated. The best price I've been able to google.

    Be carefull, only go with the extract 50:1, or better. For more information (I read a shitload about it before I bought it).. check this out.... http://www.asiadaily.com/


    Because tongkat ali root is mostly cellulose, purchase rule 1 is: if you buy capsules, only buy tongkat ali extract, not just tongkat ali.

    When an extract is made, the active ingredients are extracted from the root, and the remaining cellulose is discarded. Extracts can have various proportions (the amount of active ingredients that is extracted). For example, an extract that is 1:50 gets 1 gram of active ingredients from 50 gram of tongkat ali root. An extract that is 1:100 uses 100 gram of root to produce 1 gram of extract, and a 1:200 extract is even more concentrated. It needs 200 gram of tongkat ali root to prepare just 1 gram of extract. Thus, among the various tongkat ali extracts cited above, 1:200 is the most concentrated and strongest form.

    However, if a bottle of capsules just says "Tongkat Ali Extract", without specifying a proportion, then the extract is likely only 1:5, or maybe even only 1:2. This means that only 5, or just 2, gram of tongkat ali root were used to obtain 1 gram of extract. Thus, assuming an equal capsule size, you would need 40 capsules (or, at worst 100 capsules) of such a tongkat ali extract of unspecified strength to obtain as much active ingredient as you can get from just one capsule of 1:200 extract.
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    Try red kat out

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    the absolute best testosterone booster would be an AI like arimidex /letro or the legal versions containing ATD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan2
    the absolute best testosterone booster would be an AI like arimidex/letro or the legal versions containing ATD
    What about using clomid at a lower dose (50mg-100mg) so that you don't experience the sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker93
    What about using clomid at a lower dose (50mg-100mg) so that you don't experience the sides?

    If you go with arimedex at a lower dose between .5 and 1mg ed then you wont really have the "noticeable" sides such as joint pain.


    The cholesterol is inevitable so take your cholesterol supps.


    But Clomid or nolva is a BAD idea if your looking for a test boost.

    The reason is the HPTA sees that there is not enough estrogen in the blood due to the AI.

    Therefore in order to get more estrogen in the body it needs to produce more Test to convert into estrogen.


    If you are using a SERM like clomid or nolva then the results are not going to be so good as these are in themselves weak synthetic estrogens.

    and if you use them the HPTA will see some estrogen still and therefore not create "as much" extra Test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drenk
    Since its legal I will mention I got my Longjack (Tongkat Ali) from CircleCityMarket. 50:1 extract. Good stuff. Been on it 1 week. I'll keep you updated. The best price I've been able to google.

    Be carefull, only go with the extract 50:1, or better. For more information (I read a shitload about it before I bought it).. check this out.... http://www.asiadaily.com/
    So how good is this herbal supplement at super concentrations only going to raize my test up close to the real deal teast? Basicaly what im trying to ask is that is it really possible for this 50:1 ratio or more of this product gonna make me feeel like an animal in the gym and bed just like taking a gram a week of test?????

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    In a word, no.

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    what are the half lifes of the test bosting properties in these herbs. i ask this becaue wouldnt the idea be to get the levels higher and stable, if so how often should theybe taking.

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    http://www.muscleology.com/store/item14.htm i meant to say red test before not red kat

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    ^^Is that better then Superdrol?

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    I beleive Superdrol is test replacement, not a booster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrapakilla
    what are the half lifes of the test bosting properties in these herbs. i ask this becaue wouldnt the idea be to get the levels higher and stable, if so how often should theybe taking.
    I've read that tribulus only boosts test levels for a few hours, so it would be best to take a dose before working out and after.

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    Found a supp. that combines tongkat ali (long jack), dodder seed, tribulus, and a few others. I have seen good reviews for it elsewhere. It is not cheap though.

    Diesel Nutrition: Diesel Test

    4 tabs/day 120/tabs for about $45 on dpsnutrition

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    How about USPLabs new "Powerfull" product

    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product_i...roducts_id=814

    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 2 capsules
    Servings Per Container: 65

    Proprietary Blend: 1200mg
    PureSap tm (100% Saponins)
    Muira Puama



    100% Saponins?!?!?!

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    I've heard a lot of good stuff about X-Factor stacked with some other testosterone enhancer like Diesel-Test or FenoTest.

    That's assuming that I could handle all of the joint problems though...

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    Question tongkat ali......

    Ive been researching trying to buy this stuff in powder form so i can have more product for the buck but this tongkat ali is WA EXPENSIVE to buy!! They sell them in capsules bottled up but i read that the powder will give you the effects that are desired and the bottles are pretty weak. heres the link for 2 brands of bottled capsules and id like to get some feedback on them because the bottles are cheap! www.vitadigest.com

    Anyone have any GOOD feedback to the best way to obtain tongKat ali ???
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    i've done some tb's and i got the best feeling off of 1-ad. i bought a shitload before they took it off the market and i might use it for pct

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    1ad converts into a steroid and shuts your natural test production down

    It will hinder recovery.

    Search around on the tongat but check out custom nutrition warehouse for a good deal

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    How many mg of Tongkat would you recommend taking daily?

    I'm not exactly sure of how much of it is in the Diesel Test, which I just ordered today.
    I'm kind of impressed by the combination of herbs found in this product.

    Taken from the review:
    "Bulgarian Tribulus Terrestris- Tribulus Terrestris is probably the most consumed herb in hopes of natural testosterone elevation. Over the last few years many companies have become obsessed with using the Tribulus with the highest amount of Protodiocin possible. We on the other hand believe while Protodiocin is an important active alkaloid in Tribulus Terrestris, better results are achieved by using a full spectrum standardized extract high in Protodiocin. We included full spectrum Tribulus Terrestris in DIESEL TEST high in Protodiocin and other important saponins including Protogracilin to further increases the production of testosterone raising LH & free testosterone.

    Malaysian Tongkat Ali (Long Jack)- A powerful testosterone enhancing, sex drive raising, erection response enhancing herb found exclusively in Malaysia. With Long Jack its all about potency of raw materials that make the product. We are not going to go into what extract ratio we use but we can guarantee you if you do not respond to the Long Jack in DIESEL TEST then you will not respond to any formula containing Long Jack!

    Cnidium Monnieri- Cnidium Monnieri contains an active ingredient by the name of osthole. Osthole is said to increase nitric oxide and produced improved erections because it inhibits PDE-5 (the same enzyme Viagra is designed to inhibit).

    Gynostemma (JIAOGULAN)- Gynostemma in DIESEL TEST works syngestically with Cnidium Monnieri to produced enhanced erection response. Gynostemma also enhances physical performance by increasing blood oxygen levels during exercise."


    It completely depends on how many mg of each are found per recommended dosage...

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    I have been takin Axis HT by BSN and so far i like it. The only immediate thing i've noticed is a very enhanced sex drive. I feel that this product works very well for this purpose. I have only been on it for about a week maybe a little less and i've noticed some slight strength gains which hopefully will only increase as time goes on. Don't think it is all that great for the price tag but if ya got some $$$ to blow i say give it a try.........

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    Exclamation

    Quote Originally Posted by MMA
    tongkat is by for the strongest i've tried. takes a little longer to kick in, but it blows trib away
    MMA, can you please reccomend some places to pick this product up in a strong enough ratio. I was told a gram a day is good. This stuff is a herb so i see no harm in posting a site. OR you can just return my pm please!!

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    i've been very happy with diesel test and i'm about 1/2 way through the bottle

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