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Thread: VIT C is a miracle!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12-12-2005, 05:47 PM #41
yes its main downfall is its cost however you may not need nearly as much as regular Vit C to see the same effects.
Regular version is much more cost effective though
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12-12-2005, 06:07 PM #42
johan what do you think about centrum a to zinc vitamins? worth taking it or not?
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12-13-2005, 12:35 AM #43Originally Posted by Bryan2
The longer half life would be a advantage but how much longer is it? Regular ascorbic acid has a half life of 30 minutes if I dont remember wrong.
Originally Posted by alex7674
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12-13-2005, 12:40 AM #44
Increased insulin sensitivity, improved joints and energy only seems to come with very large dosages(>10 grams) aswell. Im not sure about the dosage for its nitric oxide promoting effects and its positive effects on the blood vessels though.
I would be interested in trying the fat soluble. If I could find it decently cheap. Sounds like regular vitamin c, the fat soulable and vitamin e would be a great combo to fight LDL oxidation
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12-13-2005, 05:14 PM #45
how long does it take for u to start noticing the effects? I did 10 grams of acorbic acid today, split into 5 2 gram doses, all take with meals, didnt notice any stomach problems taken in this way. Obvs I dont expect results this quickly, im just interested as to when u reckon Ill notice the difference.
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12-13-2005, 05:30 PM #46
Thank you Johan for sharing all this information with us...I think I will be trying this soon...
I am also interested in how long it usually takes to see results...and do you have to take it with a meal? I thought the body could only use 1g at a time every 30 minutes?
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12-13-2005, 05:36 PM #47
If I have been on a low dosage and jump up to 20g/day I imidietly notice the energy. Thats and hypoglycemia when not used to it is the only effects I realy notice fast.
Improved joints comes gradualy over a couple of weeks. My knees went from horrid to great in like 3 months.
Except the energy that for me was pretty damn overwhelming there is no other major big noticable effect(offcourse if you got poor joints you will notice how damn good they become).
Most of the effects are subtle and can take a while to notice. Like the feeling of improved well beeing.
The most dramatic effect is if you are sic and down like 40-50 grams. Almost ALL symptoms of the cold/flu ect goes away completely in a few hours. Like turning of a switch on the disease.
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12-13-2005, 05:39 PM #48Originally Posted by NewKid
there is no difference that I know betwen taking it on empty stomach or with a meal. The body is very efficient in absorbing vitamin c.
If you go with ascorbic acid I would suggest you take it with a meal to combat the acidity a bit and also lower the gi of the carbs in the meal.
The halflife of vitamin c is around 30 minutes. But there is no real max blood level that you cant exceed. But taking 10 grams once a day would be less effective then taking 5 grams spread out on 5 servings. Try to split the c into 5 dosages.
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12-13-2005, 06:05 PM #49
Are the pills ok or do you suggest powder?
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12-13-2005, 06:10 PM #50Originally Posted by johan
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12-13-2005, 07:52 PM #51
I <3 my Vit C. I take 1G a day, and feel that my recovery is much better!
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12-14-2005, 05:27 AM #52Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
yes as newkid quoted I much prefer powder. There is nothing "wrong" with pills. But since we are talking about many pills a day it soon becomes very expensive and you get alot of fillers into you. The powder is easier to spread out aswell. I just mix down 20g in a bottle of water and put it in the frigde(it got to be keept cool and dark when solved in water)and chug some down everytime Im in the kitchen.
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12-14-2005, 03:09 PM #53
Johan did you say to supplement with biotin while megadosing...I couldnt find where you said that but I was sure I heard it...
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12-14-2005, 03:12 PM #54Originally Posted by NewKid
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12-14-2005, 06:14 PM #55New Member
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What about chewable C with orange juice ?? I got some, 500 x 500mg tablets last night at Costco, It says that the 500mg is derived from 250mg ascorbic acid and 281mg sodium ascerbate, it also says that it is sweetened with Sorbitol and Splenda. All I can say it's very very addictive, it tastes like candy, so far I had 10g today, 1 g/hr.
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12-14-2005, 06:20 PM #56
Johan or the supplement gurus:
I read in Optimum Sports Nutrition (old version) that Dr. Micheal Colgan believes that high doses of Vitamin C will boost test levels. I experimented this and woke up with fierce morning wood. Have you heard anything about Vitamin C boosting test levels?
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12-14-2005, 10:06 PM #57
it surpresses cortisol...dunno if that leads to test levels increasing
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12-15-2005, 02:50 AM #58Originally Posted by Papi93
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12-15-2005, 02:52 AM #59Originally Posted by DoubleMint
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12-15-2005, 12:10 PM #60
I am on day 3, maybe 4 on 10grams of C.. I thought my stomach was going to burn out on this ascorbic acid because I have not had a chance to buy the other kind.. Ihave a 250 pill (1 gram) bottle already of the ascorbic acid so I was using it..
now it does not seen to be upsetting my stomach as much.. when do you think I will start to notice any pain relief in my joints doing this? anything else I may notice earlier so I know it is workijng at all.
thanks
Oldman
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12-15-2005, 01:34 PM #61Originally Posted by oldman
In a few months the joints should be good I recon. Do you have alot of problems? My knees went from downright horrid to totaly healed in 3 months or so.
other things you should notice is energy, less prone to catch colds ect.
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12-15-2005, 01:43 PM #62Originally Posted by johan
I have the worst joint issues it actually had me to the point of not being able to lift for a long time. I am using Deca which has helped some and I am back into the swing of things but this cycle is done in 3-4 weeks and I hoped this VitC would kick in a little during my downtime. I know it is not a cure all but I have tried everything and nothing seems to work and none of the doctors can tell me what is wrong with all the x-rays and blood tests and bloody pain pills they always want to hand out.
Oldman
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12-15-2005, 01:49 PM #63
Since your problems are so bad I would suggest a aggrsive apporach.
Some day when you are at home all day do this. Down 10 grams of vitamin c imidietly, then take 2 grams every 30 minutes until you get a disturbed stomach, keep on taking until you get dihareea, gas and stomach pain. Write down what dosage made it appear(its like flipping a switch, at say 19 grams there is no problem but 20 BLAM the dihareea arrives). Now the dosage that gave you diareea, lower it with maby 2 grams and stick with that dosage daily.
Also if you do this, let me know what your tollerance dosage is. Its its very much above 20grams its usualy a sign that something fishy is going on in the body.
down some glucosamine aswell. Be sure to get all the necesary minerals. Vitamin c will increase absorption of most of them. Im sure your already supplementing with omega 3's??
I hope vitamin c will be as good for you as it was for me. After a leg workout I could hardly straighten my legs for several days. Forget about walking in stairs. I had to wrap my knees for just about every leg exercise. Now I dont need to wrap and havent feel the slightest pain for several months and I have exceeded my old squat 1rm. It was truly a miracle for me.
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12-15-2005, 02:23 PM #64
I will do this tomorrow. I work from my home so I am here all the time anyway.
I have been taking 3 grams at a time 3-4 times a day but I will take 10 as soon as I get home from my 5am cardio and start it then and let you know.
I do take Flax and Borage oils as well as CLA
I will put my laptop in the bathroom and let you know hee
Thanks I appreciate your insight on this stuff.
Oldman (the nice one)
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12-15-2005, 02:37 PM #65
no problem bro I have bowel tollerance dosage isnt as uncomfterable for you as it usualy is for me. But only a one time thing anyway.
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12-15-2005, 04:18 PM #66Originally Posted by johan
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12-15-2005, 04:45 PM #67
I didnt know vit C can burn fat? what kind of fat burning are we talking about? anything noticable? and how long?
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12-15-2005, 06:41 PM #68
Has anyone experienced the inability to sleep while megadosing C? Im already an energetic person and no joke...I havent slept in two days...
I just took a two hour nap before a final and I aced it. It is now evening and I havent really slept in 48 hrs and Im not tired...Am I weird? I feel perfectly normal...
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12-15-2005, 06:42 PM #69Originally Posted by NewKid
Sleep is overrated.. You can get more work done if you don't sleep
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12-15-2005, 06:47 PM #70Originally Posted by oldman
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12-16-2005, 07:07 AM #71Originally Posted by hocoathlete
Poliquin on the other hand claims several bf% reduction within days if you use vitamin c IV at dosage of 100+ grams.
Originally Posted by NewKid
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12-16-2005, 04:12 PM #72
I checked for my book and I forgot my brother has it at his home (125 miles away). Anyway, the book was Optimum Sports Nutrition by Dr. Micheal Colgan (he runs the Colgan Institute). Good read. He recommends supplementing with 2-12g of Vitamin C daily. Sorry about that.
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12-21-2005, 04:37 PM #73
Johan I think I am going to be sick.. I may have bought the wrong stuff.. Okay I have not had a chance to get to the store until today.. I have been taking 10-12 grams per day of regular VitC and no more stomach upsets.. I did not get a chance to do the 10grams at once +++ like you said.. It has been so crazy around here I have been in and out of the office too much to be "toilet dependent"
anyway I thought while I was up near a local Natural food store I would pick up some power VitC.. I asked for the stuff you said but the lady said the Sodium version will screw up my already high blood pressure and gave me Ascorbic acid with calcium carbonate, magnesium carbonate and potassium citrate which I guess is to cut the acid??
anyway it is 2 grams per teaspoon so I thought heck lets throw a tablespoon of it in my protein shake (6 grams).. I have never tasted anything so gross in my life.. I had to thrown the shake away.. ugh ugh!!
Is this stuff really this bad tasting or did I get the wrong stuff.. oh my!!
Oldman
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12-21-2005, 06:51 PM #74Associate Member
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Originally Posted by johan
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12-21-2005, 10:19 PM #75Originally Posted by Ridla
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12-22-2005, 04:29 AM #76Originally Posted by oldman
Hope you can stomach that stuff
Sodium ascorbate just tastes a bit salty. I doubt it would have made the blood pressure worse since vitamin c dilates blood vessels so it would acctualy lower it. Any negative impact from the sodium would most likely be balanced by the positive from the ascorbate.
Originally Posted by USMCSS
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12-22-2005, 07:10 AM #77
Well I have it inthe bag to take back away but here is what it is.
Per Serving 1/2 teaspoon
ascorbic acid 1 gram
calcium carb - 200mg
magnesium carb - 100mg
potassium citrate - 50 mg
so that would be times 15 for a daily dose of 15 grams of VitC.
I guess that would be a bit high.
Okay I will return these and just order the other stuff and not worry about it.
Thanks!!
Oldman
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12-22-2005, 07:54 AM #78
When you go with the sodium ascorbate. Run a check on the bloodpressure just to be 100% sure aswell. I have naturaly low bloodpressure thank god. I regulary monitor my bloodpressure anyway(I have one of those automatic wrist bloodpressure meters at home)and I never noticed any difference form the vitamin c.
Check this site for blood pressure lowering vitamins and minerals
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/contdis/bp.html
They are a bit more conservatite about dosages then I am but a good site anyway. Not realy preserving the legacy of Pauling though.
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12-22-2005, 08:26 AM #79
Thanks!! That is a very interesting site. I will need to look over all of those.
I will let you know how it goes from here on the VitC
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12-22-2005, 03:10 PM #80Originally Posted by NewKid
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