whats your opinon on this
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whats your opinon on this
Vitrix has a 80% saponins content and 20% protodioscin content. The key is having a 20% protodioscin content. Most members but Optimum Nutrition's tribulus because of the price. It contains only a 40% saponins content. You would have to take twice the amount of Optimum's Trib to get the same effect. After doubling the pills, the price is actually more than Vitrix.
I used 8g of Optimum Nutrition's tribulus for a PCT and it made my skin very oily. I used 8g because it is half as potent as Vitrix or Tribex. 4g for PCT is considered the normal for PCT.
In my case I must say that no trib product at all has worked for me...even other products such as Fenotest. Not sure what it is about these products that do jack for me.
Tongkat ali is supposed to be superior to tribulus. I have been taking Redkat from Biotest and have noticed increased libidio and larger loads (for lack of proper spelling :lol: ). If you take Optimum's Nutrition Tribulus at 8g ED, I think you would notice a libido difference. Both are supposed to help with minor testicular atrophy as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by sputnik
Trueprotein all the way... 100gs for $20 shipped to ur door.. i can make like 150 caps with that and its basicly just as powerful as vitrix
Do you know what the saponin or protodioscin content is?Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTheBuckeT21
i have two bottles, i bought from vitamin world, i was going to order them online but vitamin world had a sale so whatever i bought it for PCT along with aveena sativa, and tongat ali..i thought trib was trib i didnt even look at the saponin% or the protodioscin damn
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Originally Posted by Papi93
i get mine from trueprotien aswell , i emailed the guy once and he told me it varies from 15-20% protodioscin content .
yeah bro protodioscin is what works for increase in test levels !Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigpup101
Thanks zOaib. 15-20% protodioscin content is excellent. How hard is it to cap? I have read that it is virtually impossible to choke the powder down.Quote:
Originally Posted by zOaib
Yeah I had thought of trying Tongkat...have also tried Maca caps and nothing...to tell u the truth I'm not gonna spend my money on any more trib products again unless I get sent a sample and it works. Have already spent money for nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Papi93
The only time that I would use trib or tongkat is for PCT. I don't really look for them to add any muscle. They come in handy when you want a boost before a roll in the hay with your woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by sputnik
Oh dont worry, I don't buy the whole using trib for muscle growth....I just thought they'd increase my already massive load! :aaGreen22Quote:
Originally Posted by Papi93
I would go with tongkat ali, at a high dose, for that :evil2: . My woman is shocked everytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by sputnik
Well then I'll have to give it a go....but seriously if it increases my load anymore....I'll have to consider getting into the porn industry, cause I'll even outshine Peter North! In fact I already have him beat!:nutkick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Papi93
No way man! I saw him do an anal scene with a chick on a boat and I have never seen anything like it :aajack: . I looked like 4 guys nutted on her!Quote:
Originally Posted by sputnik
Clomid, nolva, arimidex, tongkat ali, tribulus, ZMA would be my weapons of choice.
hehe believe me Papi.....I give him a run for his money... WITHOUT supps...:aaGreen22 and I know he uses supps for his load...
What does he use? I can hold my own but I always looking to improve :aaGreen22 .Quote:
Originally Posted by sputnik
i'll see if i can find the thread over at anabolicminds and get back to ya....other than that just google it and I'm sure u shall find
Sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by sputnik
i love trib but only take it prewokout...a whole gram of it and i certainly notice an increase in strength.
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Originally Posted by zOaib
bro, i just checked my bottle..it says NOTHING about protodioscin..should i return it?!? bastards...it says 40% saponins and nothing about protodioscin
never did anything for me.
The ONLY study ive ever seen shows that protodioscin is the active
it converts into DHEA at a minimal rate and DHEA raises your test levels
why not cut out the middle man and just go with DHEA???
Trib never did anything for me either
explain this protodioscin and saponins ..what are they what do they do???
For me it is nothing but bottled up GYNO oh yeah it does help w/ libido but no strength no muscle. Not worth it IMO.
it gives u gyno?
it is apart of every pct i have ever done
y would it be bottled up gyno?
I like taken x2 tribulus caps an hour pre training and i do notice a mood influx and strength increase!!!
At work dose did you experience gyno (4g, etc)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Disciple
IMO a post cycle must as long as you spring for a quality brand and not cheap shiat...
Long time, no see Buff. What dose do you recommend for PCT (4g)? Or do you just run with Tribestan's recommended dose?Quote:
Originally Posted by buff87
explain this protodioscin and saponins ..what are they what do they do???
Check out this article.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGPHIL
http://www.nutriline.org/tribulus_terrestris.htm
Hey brotha...
I usually run HCG @ 500iu's E3D for 3 weeks and about a week into that
start running a good quality Trib at 3 grams ED for a few weeks
before dropping it down to 1,500 - 2,000mg for another 4 weeks or so...
For me it works great.. I also run Nolva during PCT at 10mg ED during the
whole time just to help keep any excess estrogen from binding with recepors...
Not a fan of Clomid, never have been... Don't really use it...
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Originally Posted by Papi93