Proper ECA cycling please?

**guest589745** · 01-01-2006, 10:54 PM

How is ECA properly "cycled"?

I know hte doses are 25mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine/81mg aspirin x4 per day (correct me if Im wrong)

But, should there be an "off" period, or bendryl every third week etc?

Also, why is the aspirin needed?

Thank you.

**kloter1** · 01-01-2006, 10:57 PM

I know hte doses are 25mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine/81mg aspirin x4 per day (correct me if Im wrong

thats correct.

But, should there be an "off" period, or bendryl every third week etc?

some say 2 on 2 off. personally i use it for longer periods.

Also, why is the aspirin needed?

it helps thin your blood. ive never used it. seemed like a waste to me.

**guest589745** · 01-02-2006, 12:24 AM

should it be taken with food?

**chest6** · 01-02-2006, 12:41 AM

Ephedrine never really did it for me...ive been doing it 3x a day for awhile now and I havent seen much

**guest589745** · 01-02-2006, 12:48 AM

whats yer BF% and diet/exercise look like?

**chest6** · 01-02-2006, 12:52 AM

Right now I would guess 12%. Diet has been strict for almost 3 months now with minimal cheating. Train 4 days a week and cardio at least 5 times a week. I seemed to hit a wall and I couldn't shed my bf on my lower stomach.

**guest589745** · 01-02-2006, 01:03 AM

well, if I get "stuck" at 12% BF I won't be complaining. That is 3% more than my goal.

**chest6** · 01-02-2006, 01:16 AM

Hm well others in my pics thread think I am more in the 14-16 range..damn. Still stuck. Diet and cardio are much much more important that any eca or supplement stack out there.

**guest589745** · 01-02-2006, 01:55 AM

yea I know, Im just sayin.

**cfiler** · 01-02-2006, 02:43 AM

2 weeks on 2 weeks off. The body builds up a tollerence to the effedrine. On the off weeks, you could use ecy, or clen , or some sort of OTC non effedra based thermo (ie green tea.)

**guest589745** · 01-02-2006, 02:47 AM

" let me address the claim that you can use ephedrine (or the ECA stack), alternating with clen , in order to avoid receptor downgrade. I’m not sure where this rumor came from, but it is totally incorrect. "

----Anthony Roberts----------

**guest589745** · 01-02-2006, 02:47 AM

To dispel this myth, lets examine ephedrine for a second. Remember when I said that using clenbuterol to stimulate the beta-2 receptors is like hitting a tack with a hammer? Well, Ephedrine is like a sledge-hammer, it hits the beta-2's and everything around them. Thats because it's not selective, but rather it stimulates other receptors to a great degree as well.

Anyway, one of those receptors that ephedrine hits is the Beta-2 (yeah...the same one as Clen )

Ephedrine, in this study, reduces Beta-2 receptor levels to 32% of control after 24 hours

Granted, it's not perfect, it's not in vivo, etc...but there's no denying that ephedrine will downregulate beta-2 receptors....ergo you will not be able to use it on the weeks inbetween your clen to upgrade your receptors.

------------Anthony Roberts-------------

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**guest589745** · 01-02-2006, 02:48 AM

what is "ecy" ?

**Papi93** · 01-02-2006, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

what is "ecy" ?

Ephedrine/Caffeine/Yohimbine stack.

**Papi93** · 01-02-2006, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

How is ECA properly "cycled"?

I know hte doses are 25mg ephedrine/200mg caffeine/81mg aspirin x4 per day (correct me if Im wrong)

But, should there be an "off" period, or bendryl every third week etc?

Also, why is the aspirin needed?

Thank you.

I believe 3'x per day is more common than 4x's per day. If you take benedryl, you don't need to take off weeks. You can stay on. The aspirin is not needed. Most people, on this site, go with ECY.

**guest589745** · 01-03-2006, 12:48 AM

I have never heard of the 3x. I will just go as high as I can handle. If the sides are too much ill lower it. thanks I didnt know about the yohimbe

**cfiler** · 01-03-2006, 12:54 PM

Most common through my gym is 2weeks eca, 2 weeks ecy. Works really well, but I find that clen is even better than eca. So I'm sticking with that from now on.

**Papi93** · 01-03-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by cfiler

Most common through my gym is 2weeks eca, 2 weeks ecy. Works really well, but I find that clen is even better than eca. So I'm sticking with that from now on.

Did you go with 3x's per day with ECA or twice?