he is 5-8, 190, 16% bf. his comp is in 9wks. he just started to cut, but he wants to cycle sd or pp. which one will help his the most while cutting?
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he is 5-8, 190, 16% bf. his comp is in 9wks. he just started to cut, but he wants to cycle sd or pp. which one will help his the most while cutting?
thx
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Sg as it has a diuretic effect
Either he really only needs a low dosed anabolic to maintain LBM while dieting
It isnt the best to "expect" LBM gains while cutting
What weight class is he trying to fall into, at 16%BF at 190 he will need to lose a significant amount of weight if he wants to stand a chance. IMO 16% is extremely high to be even thinking about competing. Not trying to discourage him, just my opinion.
yeah man, 16% seems a bit high, but in 9 weeks if he can shred that down to like, 12% that would be alot better, i say, Clen and T3 with alot of cardio would be the best bet.
You will not win at 12%, you really need to be below 8% to have a chance. Atleast at the shows I have been to. If you are doing some no-name show you may have a chance.
He really should of least started cutting at 12 weeks out I mean he "can" get down to around 8% if he is hardcore with his cardio and diet ive done it before at the same stats.
He will HAVE to cycle an anabolic to keep from loosing LBM but even so he is GOING to loose some its inevitable.
He has to cut all the way up until his comp because he waited to long and wont look ready for the comp he will still be holding quite a bit of water.
9 weeks is WAY to long to be cycling an oral its not worth the risk on the body.
So I reccomend a low dosed test prop cycle for him with emphasis on an AI to keep as much water at bay.
Average amount of weight loss is 2 pounds fat per week even with thermos an such any more and its a good sign that some is LBM.
Does he plan on doing anything drastic the last 10 days leading up to the comp to flush the rest of the water out???
thanks for all the input. first off i was wrong on the bf%, he is between 13-14%. he is hardcore with his training and diet. he is kinda set on using sd. i told him if he is still gunna do it then he should do a very low dose like 10mg wk for 5-6wks. im not sure what he is gunna take the last week, but i told him to drop some carbs and use yes on problem areas. i hear it works for shedding water on applied area's.
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so im assuming hes gonna try and compete at around 170-175???
ya his goal is 175. he's not trying to put on more mass at the same time. he just doesn't want to lose any muscle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan2
thx again.
so would 10mg sd ed for 6wks, be ok.